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I know the uncaught third strike has been discussed alot but I can't find any info on the BR if he is across the field, sorry if this has been discussed before, I'm a newb, I searched and couldn't find anything regarding the runner

 

Under NFHS HS rules, First base unoccupied, B1 leaves the batters box after an uncaught third stike and heads to the dugout, neither he nor the catcher realize the ball was caught on a bounce to the catcher. He is 5 feet from the dugout (has not entered) and realizes  he can make an attempt to run to first, what is the legal running path that he is allowed to take to get to first?

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I can't imagine its not a straight line from where he is to the base.

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His path to the base isn't relevant unless there is a tag attempt on him.

 

This.  And since the clueless catcher is still near home plate, I can't see a tag attempt being made.  So he can take whatever scenic route he wishes.

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Is out and can't go to first:

 

OBR and NCAA - after he leaves the dirt circle around the plate (unless he's headed to first already).

 

LL - When he enters DBT.

 

FED: Don't have the latest book.

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When does he lose the right to run to first?  When he enters the dugout?

Yes

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SoCal, See FED 8-4-1-i

 

The batter-runner is out when:

 

on a dropped third strike, he gives up by entering the bench or dugout area, or with two outs he does not attempt to reach first base before all infielders leave the diamond at the end of the half inning

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USSSA is:

 

"A batter who does not realize his situation on a third (3rd) strike not caught, and who is not in the process of running to first (1st) base, shall be declared out once he leaves the dirt circle surrounding home plate."

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SoCal, See FED 8-4-1-i

 

The batter-runner is out when:

 

on a dropped third strike, he gives up by entering the bench or dugout area, or with two outs he does not attempt to reach first base before all infielders leave the diamond at the end of the half inning

And if you search the cases under this rule (I think) you will find a case that's nearly identical to the OP.

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SoCal, See FED 8-4-1-i

 

The batter-runner is out when:

 

on a dropped third strike, he gives up by entering the bench or dugout area, or with two outs he does not attempt to reach first base before all infielders leave the diamond at the end of the half inning

And if you search the cases under this rule (I think) you will find a case that's nearly identical to the OP.

 

yes, but nothing mentions the line the runner must take to get to first, He can just run from the front of the dugout straight across the field to first?

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SoCal, See FED 8-4-1-i

 

The batter-runner is out when:

 

on a dropped third strike, he gives up by entering the bench or dugout area, or with two outs he does not attempt to reach first base before all infielders leave the diamond at the end of the half inning

And if you search the cases under this rule (I think) you will find a case that's nearly identical to the OP.

 

yes, but nothing mentions the line the runner must take to get to first, He can just run from the front of the dugout straight across the field to first?

 

Unless a play is being made on a runner, the runner can run wherever he wants (okay, taken to the extreme maybe not).

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Also be aware that you can still get the runner for running lane interference (Official Baseball Rule 6.05k). Normally, you see that call made with a batter/runner advancing towards 1B in fair territory, but this is a scenario in which you may make the call with the runner going to the right of the runner's lane. 

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Also be aware that you can still get the runner for running lane interference (Official Baseball Rule 6.05k). Normally, you see that call made with a batter/runner advancing towards 1B in fair territory, but this is a scenario in which you may make the call with the runner going to the right of the runner's lane. 

I THINK the OP indicated the BR was returning to the third base dugout BUT I am not sure.

 

KW ump please clear this up.

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