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It has been 4 and 5 years respectively since this topic came up on this forum, so I'm resurrecting it.

 

This year in High School, per FED rules, I plan to work all games from a wheelchair.

I'm 50 years old, can still run the 40 in under 5 seconds, and have no physical disabilities.

But, I've been told for 21 years, that the only way to get a bad rule changed is to enforce it EVERY time.

 

I plan to hold my plate meetings standing upright with my chair neatly assembled off to the side.

Then, when the catcher throws down, I'll either park it behind him or 10 feet behind F3 depending on which side of the coin I called.

Don't worry ... I'll "hustle" down the line carrying my chair so as not to get the game started late.

 

BS is BS.   PC is often BS.

ADA never meant to make a mockery of this game, yet a group of idiots in Indianapolis decided to do just that about ten years ago.

They know it's wrong. 

 

P.S.  I'll stand up and stretch my legs between innings.  Nothing in the rule book or case book precludes that.

Posted

Excuse my naïvete, but am I inferring correctly that you don't want physically disabled individuals to have the opportunity to umpire? This is a legitimate question. I feel I am missing something important. We have two requirements as officials: make it safe; make it fair

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Posted

It has been 4 and 5 years respectively since this topic came up on this forum, so I'm resurrecting it.

 

This year in High School, per FED rules, I plan to work all games from a wheelchair.

I'm 50 years old, can still run the 40 in under 5 seconds, and have no physical disabilities.

But, I've been told for 21 years, that the only way to get a bad rule changed is to enforce it EVERY time.

 

I plan to hold my plate meetings standing upright with my chair neatly assembled off to the side.

Then, when the catcher throws down, I'll either park it behind him or 10 feet behind F3 depending on which side of the coin I called.

Don't worry ... I'll "hustle" down the line carrying my chair so as not to get the game started late.

 

BS is BS.   PC is often BS.

ADA never meant to make a mockery of this game, yet a group of idiots in Indianapolis decided to do just that about ten years ago.

They know it's wrong. 

 

P.S.  I'll stand up and stretch my legs between innings.  Nothing in the rule book or case book precludes that.

 

Good luck w/ that.

Posted

Excuse my naïvete, but am I inferring correctly that you don't want physically disabled individuals to have the opportunity to umpire? This is a legitimate question. I feel I am missing something important. We have two requirements as officials: make it safe; make it fair

 

Don't put generalizations on this forum as though they are words from my mouth.

A physically disabled person who can still perform the duties required by an umpire has every right to be there.  BRAVO.

There is no possibility ... NONE ... that a wheelchair-bound individual can safely or adequately perform the duties of an umpire.

With the restrictions placed on the wheelchairs, it makes what is already impossible more than impossible.

 

And I'll say this ... many umpires with 35 years of experience who can't or won't run, hustle, pivot, rotate, etc. cannot safely and adequately perform the duties of an umpire.

Posted

Excuse my naïvete, but am I inferring correctly that you don't want physically disabled individuals to have the opportunity to umpire? This is a legitimate question. I feel I am missing something important. We have two requirements as officials: make it safe; make it fair

Don't put generalizations on this forum as though they are words from my mouth.

A physically disabled person who can still perform the duties required by an umpire has every right to be there. BRAVO.

There is no possibility ... NONE ... that a wheelchair-bound individual can safely or adequately perform the duties of an umpire.

With the restrictions placed on the wheelchairs, it makes what is already impossible more than impossible.

And I'll say this ... many umpires with 35 years of experience who can't or won't run, hustle, pivot, rotate, etc. cannot safely and adequately perform the duties of an umpire.

Hence why my question was asked. So defensive. *smh*

We have two requirements as officials: make it safe; make it fair

Posted

" can still run the 40 in under 5 seconds"

Really?

 

Really.  My 18-yr-old son did 4.52.

Stripes--why don't people go to a blind barber--just asking

 

I think it's going to be required by law very soon in all 50 states.

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Stripes--why don't people go to a blind barber--just asking

I'm going to answer that directly for fun's sake: because a blind person with scissors is dangerous

Are you equating a blind barber with a wheelchair-bound umpire?

There are many non wheelchair-bound people that are more dangerous on a baseball field than a capable wheelchair-bound individual

Seeking rule reform?

We have two requirements as officials: make it safe; make it fair

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We have two requirements as officials: make it safe; make it fair

 

 

 

When your signature is automatically posted, you don't need to state it.

When your signature is automatically posted, you don't need to state it.

That's redundant.

That's redundant.

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Beating around the bush does nothing but wear out the dirt around the bush.

Let's start picking berries

WildFlyer: what is your reason for utilizing a wheelchair when you are physically capable of calling a game without it?

We have two requirements as officials: make it safe; make it fair

Posted

" can still run the 40 in under 5 seconds"

Really?

 

Really.  My 18-yr-old son did 4.52.

Stripes--why don't people go to a blind barber--just asking

 

I think it's going to be required by law very soon in all 50 states.

My youngest daughter can dunk a basket ball (6'5") BUT what does that have to do with it?

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My youngest daughter can dunk a basket ball (6'5") BUT what does that have to do with it?

 

 

Tongue in cheek?   I'm mobile?

What is your reason for utilizing a wheelchair when you are physically capable of calling a game without it?

 

My answer to that question was in my OP.  Read it again.

My answer to that question was in my OP.  Read it again.

Posted

@

This is a politically correct rule, and to question it makes you politically incorrect and insensitive. Don't misunderstand. I'm not calling you insensitive, or anything else. It's just the way things are these days when you give an opinion on such a topic. Personally, there's some things I have opinions on that I keep to myself. This topic being one of them.

 

However, I will agree 100% that re-typing your signature on every post when it automatically appears anyway is quickly moving up my list of top ten pet peeves. 

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So 1 of 2 things could happen this season:

1) The season plays on with no major issues and you reinforce the ADA

2) A child gets hurt running into you, and assuming you still have little to no reason for being in a wheelchair (nor have any training), go to court for negligence, malfeasance, and/or reckless endangerment.

My hope is for the former.

We have two requirements as officials: make it safe; make it fair

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Posted

@

This is a politically correct rule, and to question it makes you politically incorrect and insensitive. Don't misunderstand. I'm not calling you insensitive, or anything else. It's just the way things are these days when you give an opinion on such a topic. Personally, there's some things I have opinions on that I keep to myself. This topic being one of them.

 

However, I will agree 100% that re-typing your signature on every post when it automatically appears anyway is quickly moving up my list of top ten pet peeves. 

 

I hear you, Rich.  I'm just not gonna remain silent on what you and others think (and FED knows to be true).

It's a question of ability ... not skin color, ethnicity, sexual orientation, or the like.

It's almost what the corporate world refers to as an "unaccomplishable task."  Yes, that's a word.  I think.

There are CYA rules all over the FED rule book, but this one really takes the cake because it's about the officials.

I can live with the CYA rules to protect the players and coaches.

If you tried that crap in my association, you'd be gone before you got home from the game.  

 

Hmmmmmm ..... I'd hate to think that someone would accentuate the absurd by being absurd.

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Also, I only see the signature coming up on my posts once. It is in the default of the profile. Did not realize my info carried over when I went to Tapatalk.

Calm down gentlemen.

Posted

This is not personal but this must be the most absurd OP I have seen since I joined this board!

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Posted

It has been 4 and 5 years respectively since this topic came up on this forum, so I'm resurrecting it.

 

This year in High School, per FED rules, I plan to work all games from a wheelchair.

I'm 50 years old, can still run the 40 in under 5 seconds, and have no physical disabilities.

But, I've been told for 21 years, that the only way to get a bad rule changed is to enforce it EVERY time.

 

I plan to hold my plate meetings standing upright with my chair neatly assembled off to the side.

Then, when the catcher throws down, I'll either park it behind him or 10 feet behind F3 depending on which side of the coin I called.

Don't worry ... I'll "hustle" down the line carrying my chair so as not to get the game started late.

 

BS is BS.   PC is often BS.

ADA never meant to make a mockery of this game, yet a group of idiots in Indianapolis decided to do just that about ten years ago.

They know it's wrong. 

 

P.S.  I'll stand up and stretch my legs between innings.  Nothing in the rule book or case book precludes that.

So you don't like the ADA and you're going to demonstrate your disapproval, put yourself at the center of attention by working a game(s) in a wheelchair. And you're going to stand/stretch between innings. Don't you know (or don't you care) that everyone is going to think that you're mocking people with disabilities. Once your assignor finds out what you're doing, you'll be working Jr high Fed games...solo.

 

It would take a level of assholishness never before seen to pull off a stunt like this. I don't believe a word of this OP...Post pictures.

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So you don't like the ADA and you're going to demonstrate your disapproval, put yourself at the center of attention by working a game(s) in a wheelchair. And you're going to stand/stretch between innings. Don't you know (or don't you care) that everyone is going to think that you're mocking people with disabilities. Once your assignor finds out what you're doing, you'll be working Jr high Fed games...solo.

 

It would take a level of assholishness never before seen to pull off this stunt. I don't believe a word of this OP...Post pictures.

 

 

So Rick56 knows irony ... congratulations. 

And it's not the ADA I don't like.  It's FED bowing to the ADA.

You know very well, Rick, that anyone involved with writing the ADA who understands the game would agree with my assessment.

 

Learn to spell assholeishness

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