Intentional dropped pop up

[Mr Ump]

R1 with less than 2 outs. Pop-up directly to SS, who camps underneath it, ball hits glove and fielder intentionally (in my judgment) drops it. They throw to 1B. What do you do?

 

[mstaylor]

If you have an intentional drop the batter is out and return all other runners. It doesn't sound like an ID from your description. Usually an intentional drop is a catch but then directed out of his glove so it falls at his feet and he can turn a DP. Since there is no voluntary release technically it is not a catch. You will certaily know it when you see it. Remember in a non IFF situation the ball is dead. On an IFF the ball stays live because the batter is automatically out. 

[Mr Ump]

No it was a catch and intentional drop. Not much doubt of that. Ball did fall at his feet and then picked up and strong throw to first. Not much debate from the coaches either. 

[mstaylor]

Then I am confused. The purpose of an intentional drop is to get a cheap double play, if he "drops" the ball, the first thing for him to do is throw to second to start the desired DP. By throwing to first either it wasn't an ID or the SS is stupid. 

[noumpere]

And your call should be made before they throw so you don't care whether he throws to first or to second because youve already killed it and returned the runner. 

[maven]

This is always a judgment call. If you judge that the ball is dropped intentionally, the proper mechanic is: "Time! That's an intentional drop! You, back to 1B!"

 

The rule applies with 1B occupied (or more) and less than 2 outs. The ball is dead, the batter is out, other runners return.

 

Note that an intentional drop involves the fielder touching the fly ball with hand or glove and literally dropping the ball. Allowing a pop up or soft liner to fall to the ground untouched in order to make a double play is legal and not an intentionally dropped ball. "Allowing to fall" is never "intentionally dropping."

[sdix00]

"Allowing to fall" is never "intentionally dropping."

You can't drop something you never touched.

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[Pete Peterson Sr]

 

"Allowing to fall" is never "intentionally dropping."

You can't drop something you never touched.

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[HeadHunterLA]

 

 

"Allowing to fall" is never "intentionally dropping."

You can't drop something you never touched.

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[johnnyg08]

You can usually tell if it is an intentional drop or not.  It's all about judgment.