Chicago NCAA Meeting

[Stretch]

Johnny,

are you thinking of the "According to Jim" episode where Belushi is filling in as an umpire?

[johnnyg08]

Yes, that's the one.  Thanks.

[johnnyg08]

any idea on the episode name or number?  I'm looking to buy the episode on itunes, but I have no idea where to start looking for the episode.

[UmpTTS43]

Its from "Yes Dear" I believe. It is easily found on YouTube.

[johnnyg08]

I found it...thanks UmpTTS43

[zm1283]

I've been meaning to ask you guys this.  Does anyone remember who was involved in the play they showed where there was a R3 and the BR hit a ground ball, avoided the tag at first and missed the base, but was called out diving back into first on appeal?  It was one of the videos they showed when we split into groups and discussed plays.  They ended up telling us it was a force and the run shouldn't count.  Does anyone remember this one and maybe who was involved in the video so I can find it?

[UmpTTS43]

Technically not a force but an out on the BR before he legally attained it. He passed the base without touching it. He has acquired it pending appeal. The action of the tag on the BR was the appeal. Once called out, no runs score.

[johnnyg08]

not b/c of the force but it basically was a missed base appeal and it was at first base and no run can score if the batter/runner is retired for the third out before legally acquiring first base correct?

[UmpTTS43]

Correct. And sorry zm, misread your post. Don't know where it came from.

[Jocko]

Bet y'all never knew me and Rolo starred on TV

http://youtube.com/watch?feature=plpp&v=KIUp0TPQHcM

:D :D :D

[BT_Blue]

Bet y'all never knew me and Rolo starred on TV

http://youtube.com/watch?feature=plpp&v=KIUp0TPQHcM

:D :D

SWMBO just saw this episode... she liked when Jimmy pointed to his partner on the play at the plate.

[Haid D' Salaami]

not b/c of the force but it basically was a missed base appeal and it was at first base and no run can score if the batter/runner is retired for the third out before legally acquiring first base correct?

It is not a force.....the BR is not forced anywhere.

[zm1283]

Yeah I realized it wasn't a force technically, but we were discussing it during the meeting so I wanted to post it here and see what everyone else thought.  johnnyg has the video.  johnny you can go ahead and post it here if you want to.  

[johnnyg08]

not b/c of the force but it basically was a missed base appeal and it was at first base and no run can score if the batter/runner is retired for the third out before legally acquiring first base correct?

It is not a force.....the BR is not forced anywhere.

 

 

I know.  Just using consistent terminology from posts above.  

[johnnyg08]

Catch or no catch?

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=4424439&c_id=mlb

[johnnyg08]

Was the video at first base from Yeast's CBUA presentation or the general session?

[BRUMP]

if im not mistaken i believe the wording is "simultaneoulsy or immediatly following contact with the ball" if the player runs into something and drops the ball it is not a catch....ankiel takes 3.5 steps between contact with the ball and contact with the wall with no juggling whatsoever....i say catch

[UmpTTS43]

The fielder did not demonstrate complete body control however he did demonstrate voluntary release by removing the ball from his glove with his left hand thereby satisfying criteria for a catch. If the ball had remained in his glove and then fell out after contact with the wall, it would not have been a catch. In order to have a catch, once you have secure possession of the ball, you must have complete body control or demonstrate voluntary release. You do not need both.

[johnnyg08]

I've been meaning to ask you guys this.  Does anyone remember who was involved in the play they showed where there was a R3 and the BR hit a ground ball, avoided the tag at first and missed the base, but was called out diving back into first on appeal?  It was one of the videos they showed when we split into groups and discussed plays.  They ended up telling us it was a force and the run shouldn't count.  Does anyone remember this one and maybe who was involved in the video so I can find it?

 

 

Was it an MLB clip or an NCAA clip?  Also, was it from Yeast's presentation or from the NCAA general session?  

 

I feel like it was from Yeast's presentation.  But maybe not???

[BT_Blue]

Catch or no catch?

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=4424439&c_id=mlb

Simple answer... no.

[Jocko]

Ok. In full speed from where the umps saw it, no catch. From camera angle/zoom, he voluntarily removed the ball from the glove with his throwing hand. I 100% agree with whatever the original call was. Could go either way in real time.

[johnnyg08]

That's what they said at the meeting as well.  From the umpire's perspective, you're likely going to have a "no catch" 

 

The correct call after review is "catch"

[jkumpire]

Been so busy with BK and WR I have not been ion here in a while!

 

I will be in ATL this weekend, anybody want to get together, never been in ATL before, looking forward to it!

 

drop me a PM...

[zm1283]

Johnny, the play at first was from the NCAA part.

[BT_Blue]

Does anyone have a video of the play at first for those of us not attending any of the NCAA clinics?