from 0 to 3 in 6 innings

[constable]

Ok. So I don't do a ton of baseball... mainly basketball, but still, 2 games a week normally of pretty decent ball. Up until last night I had zero reasons/chances to dump somebody.

Last night, I'm BU. Close play at first base, f3 steps on bag before BR by half a step. I bang him out. He doesn't like it, says that nice word that starts with an F loud enough for me to hear and then goes and punches the crap out of the fence. Good night.

Cue the coach. He comes out asking why I dumped him. I reply " unsportsmanlike conduct". Coach then informs me there was no language used. Au contraire. Coach then goes on a tangent about how I should let them play F*#King baseball and how every time I'm there I'm a f:censored:ing di:censored:head. Good night.

Bottom 6, home team down by 1. BR trying to stretch double into a triple. Out by foot and a half. Gets up screaming and jumping up and down like a cry baby. I'm walking away trying to ignore him until he decides to smash his helmet into the ground catapulting it across the diamond. Good night.

These are 15 year old kids. I know if I acted like that when I was that age my dad would have kicked my ass. Is anyone else finding more attitude in kids this age?

[catoblue]

Yep - they're all entitled to everything. They get coddled from birth on and do not get punished when they do something wrong (thank you Dr. Spock).

Walking out back to cut a switch that would soon be across your backside is a wonderful attitude adjuster. That only happened to me if I acted up at my grandparents house. At home, there were always wooden spoons in the utensil drawer for mom to adjust our attitudes, and dad, well, he has always worn a belt to keep his britches up.

Now, thanks to "new age" thinking, if you spank your kid, they can call child protective services and get you charged with child abuse!!!!! Funny how corporal punishment, something that has been used by parents for thousands of years, and has worked for thousands of years, is now "wrong". While at the same time, we now have kids shooting up schools and being disrespectful to everybody. Yet, somehow, the "experts" fail to see the direct correlation between the two.

Think about this... the farther back in time you look, the more access kids had to guns, while at the same time, corporal punishment was the norm and there weren't any "Columbines". Kids called adults "Mr, Mrs, Miss, Sir or Ma'am, and dropping an F-bomb in the presence of an adult was something that rarely ever happened (soap in the mouth anyone?) Is it just me, or is it blatantly obvious to others, that the new "hands-off" parenting philosophy caused many more problems than it has solved?

[dawg-man]

I could not agree more.

[rulebook]

Coach then goes on a tangent about how I should let them play f:censored:ing baseball and how every time I'm there I'm a f:censored:ing di:censored:head.

These are 15 year old kids. I know if I acted like that when I was that age my dad would have kicked my ass. Is anyone else finding more attitude in kids this age?

Sounds like the kids are just following the example set by the coach. If any boy on my son's 15U team acted like that, the whole team would be running laps after the game.

[Tyennie]

Yep - they're all entitled to everything. They get coddled from birth on and do not get punished when they do something wrong (thank you Dr. Spock).

Walking out back to cut a switch that would soon be across your backside is a wonderful attitude adjuster. That only happened to me if I acted up at my grandparents house. At home, there were always wooden spoons in the utensil drawer for mom to adjust our attitudes, and dad, well, he has always worn a belt to keep his britches up.

Now, thanks to "new age" thinking, if you spank your kid, they can call child protective services and get you charged with child abuse!!!!! Funny how corporal punishment, something that has been used by parents for thousands of years, and has worked for thousands of years, is now "wrong". While at the same time, we now have kids shooting up schools and being disrespectful to everybody. Yet, somehow, the "experts" fail to see the direct correlation between the two.

Think about this... the farther back in time you look, the more access kids had to guns, while at the same time, corporal punishment was the norm and there weren't any "Columbines". Kids called adults "Mr, Mrs, Miss, Sir or Ma'am, and dropping an F-bomb in the presence of an adult was something that rarely ever happened (soap in the mouth anyone?) Is it just me, or is it blatantly obvious to others, that the new "hands-off" parenting philosophy caused many more problems than it has solved?

My dad was 20 yrs Air Force... man those skinny little belts could sting. You should try working with some of these kids in a school setting. Absolutely no respect for the adults in their lives.... 'Who is going to be in jail after graduation?' is always a 'fun' game to play.

[Dragon29]

Now, thanks to "new age" thinking, if you spank your kid, they can call child protective services and get you charged with child abuse!!!!! Funny how corporal punishment, something that has been used by parents for thousands of years, and has worked for thousands of years, is now "wrong". While at the same time, we now have kids shooting up schools and being disrespectful to everybody. Yet, somehow, the "experts" fail to see the direct correlation between the two.

I think this is true to a point and it all falls on the parent (just as it always has and should) I have two teenage sons (16 & 19) whom I never spanked. That's not to say I didn't discipline them - I did, but an out-&-out spanking was never warranted. They got 'smacked' a couple of times each (2 or 3 fingers [depending upon age] nice & sharp) and as far as physical punishment went, that was it. There are other very effective forms of discipline, but each must be tailored to the specific child or it won't work. (The oft-derided 'timeout', for example, worked wonders on my oldest, but didn't work at all on my youngest)

They understand the relationship between adults and kids; they understand they are to curb their tongues in certain situations; they understand how to behave in a manner appropriate to the setting - because my late wife & I taught them these things and expected them to abide by our teachings.

Each of them played both baseball and basketball for many, many years. Neither ever mouthed off to a coach, parent or official (& believe me, it's not because they never had reason to!) Neither of them ever received a technical foul or ejection or was suspended for any behavioral reason. Even today, if we argue about something, they never treat me to any of the verbal poison I hear coming from other kids of the same age to their own parents.

I believe the problem lies more with the parents who hear only what they want to hear &/or expect schools to teach their children how to behave. "It Takes a Village"? It does not - it takes a parent.

Sorry about the length and the overall topic, but you can blame catoblue - he started it!!!

[mstaylor]

I agree that there is more attitudes in all age groups in all sports. On a personal note, I have only spanked my two boys a few times but they always knew it was possible. I have a finger snap that is very sharp and loud, I always told my boys I would snap twice. They would hear the first one, they wouldn't like the second. One is 21 and the other is 16, I can still snap and they will look everytime.

[yawetag]

dad, well, he has always worn a belt to keep his britches up.

I've seen a lot of "dads" wearing belts recently, but they still have problem keeping their britches up.

That's a different rant, though.

[buddywilshire]

Sounds like the kids are just following the example set by the coach. If any boy on my son's 15U team acted like that, the whole team would be running laps after the game.

Couldn't agree more. When the coach is a jerk, you know you are going to get it from the kids.

Also agree about what you said about your kids team. When I was 15 I played a very good local team( I wasn't any good, they just needed someone to play RF:yippie:) and if we said anything to the UMPs we would get ran silly.

[Guest]

I remember hearing something about this today.

Oh wait...I read the ejection report featuring a situation EXACTLY like this today.

Check your PM's...I've already explained it all there.

Funny thing is, I read about this via Facebook from the first kid you dumped.

Surprise, surprise...the other kid commented on his post and, again, surprise, doesn't think anyone should've been ejected.

They got a nice "vacation" from the league though.

[catoblue]

I've seen a lot of "dads" wearing belts recently, but they still have problem keeping their britches up.

That's a different rant, though.

This reminds me of a story that is actually a little humorous...

I don't remember what me and my sisters did, but we were in big trouble for something, and it was more than what Mom wanted to deal with. So the first thing that happened to us was we got to be full of dread all afternoon, because hit us with: "Wait until your father gets home". There were three kids on pins and needles all afternoon.

So Dad gets home, and he's furious . My sisters and I are all standing there in the living room, awaiting the licking we were going to get with his belt. He unbuckles it and yanks it out of the belt loops with an angry swift flourish.

Here we go, I'm thinking. Just then, his pants drop to his ankles and he's standing there in his boxers!!!!! We tried not to laugh, but it wasn't any use. In seconds, all three of us were roaring out loud, then Mom couldn't help herself either, and finally Dad lost it too.

It kinda went down like this: :rollinglaugh:

Needless to say, we didn't get spanked that night. To me, the whole afternoon of "wait until your father gets home", was worse than a spanking anyhow!

[yawetag]

"Wait until your father gets home"

The scariest 6 words a mother could ever say.

[tjwoelfel13]

Of course they are entitled to everything.  They are going to the MLB world series and they are going to win in a clean sweep.  NOT.  3  fantastic EJs