LittleBlue

Jeez, I don't know what that hit but I'm almost certain it hit something. Whatever call they made on the field was going to stand because there's no way you could say for sure that it would or wouldn't be a HR.

I don't think this is an out or INT in FED. As far as I was taught there has to be some intent in a situation like this and the batter simply dropping the bat and running doesn't say intentional to me. I could be wrong but I've never had this play happen to me in the four years I've worked HS ball so I'm trying to recall from what I was taught. Edit: Is it intent or hinderance or both?

That's what I was trying to say. The coaches may not argue in this game because the score is what it is but that doesn't mean they don't know the call was wrong. Get it right if you can.

I second Walmart and sometimes Target. Unfortunately I'm spoiled because I have an Under Armour outlet store about 45 min from me. Whenever I'm down in that area I'll pick up anything I need.

I try to get the call right. Maybe no one came out to argue because of the score of the game but maybe they knew that the BU was incorrect. If the score is different then maybe they come out and ask but now they probably figure the call gets them one out closer to the game being over. Just saying that if they know the rule and know that the BU was wrong, they may remember it the next time he makes a call in a closer game.

I'm definitely considering it after having to go to the hospital last year as a result of dehydration and heat exhaustion while working 4 plates on 98°/80% humidity weather with the WVG on. I need something lighter that can breathe, but can also take a shot. The F3v2 looks like it might be an answer.

Before we start, let me say, I don't know what I was thinking accepting a middle school softball game, but I guess I made my own bed. Bases loaded, no outs. Infield in. Ball is hit and drops just on the lip of the outfield grass. Let me tell you there is no such thing as ordinary effort in this game. I could toss a ball to the pitcher and it might be an adventure. Anyway, no IFF call. R1 freezes and get forced it at 2nd. BR thinks she's out and gets forced out at 1st. R2 and R3 stay put so no runs score and we get 2 outs on the play. Defensive coach starts saying "that's infield fly, blue! Why isn't that infield fly?" I just said "no ordinary effort coach." She replied "what's that mean? It's bases loaded, it's automatically infield fly." At this point it dawns on me, why is the defensive coach arguing for me to call IFF if the no-call worked out better for them? Coach drops the arguement and we play on....and on and on and on (27-18 final). She comes up to me an inning later and asks what ordinary effort means. I tell her and she's satisfied with the answer, but still thinks I should have called it. She then said "I know it worked out for us, but I like to play the game fair." I'm like "good, good. That's a good thing to teach the girls" while in the back of my mind I'm like "just take the benefit of the call and move on because lord knows there are going to be more calls that go against you team." Anyway, just though I would share the odd argument I had yesterday. Would there be any reason for a defensive coach to argue for IFF in this case? The funny thing is the offensive coach said it was the right call and that F4 had no shot to catch the ball. Must be in some backwards dimension again.

Didn't Dale Scott do this too but with a tan pad on the bottom and a two tone on the top?

Ok so yeah, clearly I messed up in stating the rule. I definitely means LESS than 5 feet. Also completely forgot I made this thread, so there's that. So after reading through the responses I basically get that this is just our judgement. If F1 goes too close to the pitchers plate, balk him.

Not sure if this is being discussed, but if so, please direct me appropriately. In the article Gil says that the FED rule for the hidden ball trick is that the pitcher can't be more than 5 feet from the pitchers plate. My question is how do we apply this rule and this distance? Do we use the dirt mount as a guide or do we try our best to approximate 5 feet? http://www.closecallsports.com/2017/05/milb-wilhelms-ejects-lopez-on-hidden.html?m=1

Wow! Stay warm!

If BR is turning to run to 2B and then gets hit by F4, yeah, I would have OBS. If he isn't hindered because he didn't intend to go to 2B, I wouldn't have OBS.

If a coach comes out to talk with my partner about a call and isn't happy with it, I'm probably choosing a different time to address the tobacco. He's only going to feel more mad and now he has an easy target in you. You gave him an excuse, even though you were justified, and he took it to take a jab at you.

I always use the catcher in this situation. He is always going to make or break the game for you. If the pitcher doesn't respond or gets worse, dump him. It's more than likely that no one ever told him the right way to act out there and no one has tossed him for his behavior, so in a sense you're going to be doing him a favor.

Those kind of games give me recurring nightmares.

It certainly was a dark couple of days. Glad to have the site back!

Best: mechanics/knowing where to be and when. Worst: tag plays at 2B on steals. I think I'm just getting into my own head with these calls because I just have such a hard time getting them right. That said, tag plays at home or anywhere else are normal.

Didn't know that. Granted I don't do many games that follow LL rules. I was always taught if I called it foul, it's foul and we have to move on.

Hopefully it would lead to some of the good old boys dusting off the rule book. One can hope.

I'm pretty sure that once the ball is ruled foul that it can't be changed to fair. PU basically has to live with the call and slow down when making a call next time.

So, I'm watching the Red Sox play the Blue Jays while I should be paying attention in legal history class, but it's a 3 hour class and it's boring. Anyway, I noticed that Laz Diaz attaches his harness to the ear guards of his mask instead of closer to the face like most umpires/catchers do. It got me wondering if there's a reason for this like helping the mask spin off when hit. I wear my masks loose for that reason, but I've never tried attaching the harness out wide. Anyone try this set up? If so what are your results?

I'd be for it considering that, at present, all we have is what the announcers say and we know how that usually goes.

Actually: http://www.closecallsports.com/2017/04/injury-scout-dale-scott-removed.html?m=1

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/umpire-dale-scott-carted-off-field-in-toronto-after-taking-foul-ball-to-mask/ Didnt see it happen and I haven't been able to find a video of the incident but man oh man that isn't good.

I just had one earlier this week. Bases loaded. Ball hit to F6 who bobbles it. Throw goes to F1, out there, F1 throws home to try to get an overzealous R2. Ball isn't close and goes out of play. For some reason, my first reaction was to say 2 bases TOP. Where my brain was, I don't know. Obviously this should be TOT. So I ended up having R2 and R3 score, but I kept R1 at 3rd. Had I correctly ruled TOT, R1 would have also scored. No one questioned the ruling as I came up big with the call and was quite verbal on the placing of the runners. That being said, I ripped myself apart when I realized that I messed up and cost the team a run.