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Texas Manny

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  1. I would say that you were fine up to the "control" comment. Here's what I would then have done: I would have called time and the mask would have come off, taken a small side step towards him, and I would have sternly warned him that you were not going to listen to any more of that." He's argued balls and strikes, and now he is questioning my integrity a second time for an error of observation on behalf of his team. They dropped the "ball" sort of speak by paying attention to his nonsense rather than paying attention to the game. R2 stealing 3rd is on them, not me. After I warned the batter about not listening to any more of that, I'd side step back to my position behind the catcher, and start putting my mask on. If he says something smart in retort, "You're Gone!". If he goes back into the box and behaves, then I know I've drawn the line in the sand and he knows how far he can go. Anything remotely close in a secondary retort after play recommences, he would be ejected. Umpires don't eject people. Players and managers eject themselves.
  2. I would not have ejected him. I would have issued him a stern warning: "That's enough out of you. If you can't be respectful, then don't say anything." If he continues to banter, or shows you up with body language, then you can eject him because you gave him the option to shut up or place himself in jeopardy. No one is ejected by an umpire. They eject themselves. (That's how it should work, anyways). Any coach/manager worth his salt would have seen that and come out and asked you what was wrong. I would have then told the coach/manager, that I don't have a beef with players saying something, but with profanity at this age, I will not tolerate it long." If the manager tries to discuss the plays, cut him off and stand firm. Your not discussing the plays. You're dealing with the players actions. I know that they are young players, but they need to learn what they can say and can't say. The player didn't personally attack you with the "F" bomb, so I would have dealt with it in this manner. Quick ejections can earn you a reputation of being a red arse. These types of situations are great opportunities to teach youth from a different perspective when they need guidance the most. All that being said, I wasn't there. I don't know the tempo or the feel of the game, beyond what you described. If there was more grumbling or tension, that may have factored in. Just trying to offer a differing viewpoint without offense meant. Manny
  3. Thank you. Thanks for the warm welcome guys. Much appreciated.
  4. Hello Y'all, My name is Manny and this is my very first post here on the board. I've been watching this thread and reading it numerous times. I'm a little puzzled. Twenty + years ago, I used a +POS BB203 12" model. It's been the only chest protector I've ever used. It was a simple foam based protector with plastic shields on the shoulders and hard material in the top of the ribs. The throat area was protected by a heavy material similar to the like seen on todays protectors. I umpired ever level from LL to Semi-Pro/Division I NCAA, and I'm a little confused to the content of this thread. I took plenty of shots and felt the impact, which was either a muffled thump off the protector ribs, or a clack from the plastic shoulder shields and pads. I never got bruised, or broke a bone. Did it hurt? I don't ever remember getting hit on the protector and getting hurt. Now advance twenty years and we have all these other protectors. The BB203 is long gone, but models similar still exist. I can see that you can take shots from a foul ball, or a mishandled pitch by the catcher, but straight shots from pitcher directly to you are rare. Usually that's a missed sign and the catcher calls for a pitchout and the pitcher delivers one down broadway. I'm an honorably discharged soldier from the army and I used the Kevlar plates that the army uses in their chest vests. I can tell you that when a bullet hits those, it will knock you down and you feel the bullet, but the bullet is deflected and the force goes laterally. You will bruise. Now this is similar to the claim that Unequal has, in that it states the force is deflected laterally. The key is that there is a difference between the mass of the bullet and velocity as compared to the baseball, which is bigger, blunt, and slower. I have never used the Unequal, so I don't know if the ball would bruise, but doubt it since the velocity is way reduced compared to Kevlar's protective property allowances. That being said, I'm confused at the reaction to this protector. The umpire who was taken away with a broken collar bone...there are a lot of variables that are left unanswered that the protector shouldn't necessarily be blamed. What stance did he have? Was he leaning too far forward? Was his head height improper since a lower head will mean that the chest protector is either lower than it should have been, or that the top of the protector was exposed from improperly leaning forward? Was the protector improperly seated on the umpires body? Or is the Kevlar protection that minimal/weak on the shoulder area? I would have to say that there are mutiple variables here that impacted this umpire. Especially if he was wearing a hockey type mask. Above all I hope that he has fully recovered and is in good health. Please do not interpret this as to say it was his fault. I'm just trying to deduce how this injury may have occurred. No ill is meant towards him. I've watched the video of Jim Evans taking a hit. Some say (not here) that the video was edited because he did get hurt and they cut it out. Other videos show the same type of test and it just bounces off and the umpire is no worse for wear. I'm puzzled. I'm needing to purchase a new protector after a long period of inactivity. Frankly it is such a tough decision as to which model to choose. I don't want to look like a football player. I want protection, but not the bulk of a Sherman tank. I just don't understand the negativity towards the UEF3, other than price concerns. Or is it something else?
  5. Thanks y'all. Nice to be here. Hope to make a few friends.
  6. Hey Y'all, My name is Manny and I just joined Umpire Empire today. I'm hooking up with my local TASO (Texas Association Sports Officials) chapter here in San Antonio for the start of the 2014 season. I've been poking around for awhile. Hope to chat with y'all. Thanks, Folks call me Manny, or Texas, so feel free to say either. Manny
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