Larry in TN

What was the final score again?

I just hope the umpire uses good timing when calling that out...

It's not the umpire's job to tell the offense who they should send to the plate. The umpire just rules on the appeal when it's made. The defense should have waited for David's plate appearance to end and then appealed, or not, based on the result.

Thanks for posting the rule. This example shows the point I wanted to make regarding the purpose of the pitch limitations. In such a situation, many coaches will believe that the pitcher would carry his pitch count from the suspended game into the resumed game for competitive reasons (i.e. limiting their best pitcher to 85 pitches for the entire game) leaving him with only 15 pitches in the resumed game. That isn't the case. If a pitcher is eligible to pitch on that day then he can pitch to his normal limit of 85, 95, or 105 as applicable for his league-age.

The LL pitching rules are in the Pitching section of the rule book (Section VI, I think) which is BEFORE all of the regular baseball rules, 1.00, 2.00, etc. It's been a number of years since my son was in Majors so I don't remember 'the numbers' for that division and don't have my rulebook with me at the moment to look it up. Going from memory, a pitcher can continue to pitch as if the game wasn't suspended UNLESS the normal days of rest rules would prevent it. The pitch count limits and rest days rules are to protect the player's arm, not to regulate regulate how much the team's best pitchers can pitch. Also, the pitch-count rules are "per day" not "per game".

That's like asking, 'if a dead ball is caught, is it still an out?' LOL

Because it looks like a (poor) strike mechanic. Drives me nuts at the local LL when I'm scoring a game and the umpire is moving his right hand around on ball calls. How am I supposed to know if he's calling a ball or a strike? All I'm left with is with their verbal which often isn't consistent or easily heard from my position. Okay, I feel better now...

I would if I could. My job keeps me out of town 15 to 16 days per month. I'd love to actually umpire if I could commit to a reasonable number of games.

They have no association. It's just this UIC, who had the plate in this game, hiring whomever he can get who'll show up when scheduled. The league runs between 1000 and 1200 kids each season which is a lot of games and a lot of umpire assignments to fill. I just wish they had someone running the umpire program who at least tried to train, test, and evaluate. All he seems to care about is that he doesn't get any complaints. The "training" consists of handing out last year's LL rule book at the pre-season meetings each Spring.

Saw a great example of why this site is needed. LL Seniors (15-17). League UIC has the plate, 2-man. R1. R1 successfully steals 2B on the pitch, batter swings, ball to the backstop. PU loudly vocalizes "Strike". Several players and coaches think it's a foul ball. BU is holding up his hands in a gesture which looks just like a "time/foul" sign. R1 starts walking back to 1B and is thrown out. Conference ensues. Result is R1 is out. BU explains that he was holding his hands up because he didn't know what was going on. Wasn't a coach so don't know everything that was said in the conference but I can't understand why they didn't fix the mess that the poor mechanics by both umpires caused. Later in the game there's a line drive down 1B line that falls very close to the line half way to the fence. PU signals, AND VERBALIZES, "Fair!". Runners stop util coaches yell at them to keep running. Lots of foul-tip mechanics as the pitch is bouncing off the backstop, too, but I'm used to those... The umpires are paid $45 for bases, $55 for plate, per game. No training, no testing, and no evaluations.

"Dropped" certainly rolls off the tounge easier than "Uncaught" but I like and use "uncaught" as it makes the rule easier to understand.

Unless I am reading this wrong, I've got dead ball, strike three, third out.

See, this makes perfect sense once you realise that he, like most other rec-ball coaches, has his OBS and INT backwards. He wanted an INT call against the runner! LOL

Because it was the BR who put the ball in the position which then allow him to interfere with the throw?

The ball is dead. Did he offer at the pitch? (Failing to pull the bat back is not necessarily offering at the pitch) If yes, Strike. If no, was the ball in the strike zone when he was hit? If yes, Stike If no, Hit Batsman - batter awarded first base.

Judging Errors is one of the more difficult parts of scoring. There is definitely a tendency to charge more errors than the scoring rules (10.00, old system) provides. There are Errors and then there are mistakes. Mistakes are scored as Hits.

I know this is an old post, but... Tennis did eliminate one official with technology. Remember the guy who sat at the net with his hand on top of the net-cord to call Lets on serves? I don't think the computers are fast enough to make every line call in real time during a match. One day they may get there. The guys on MLB Network talking about eliminate the HP umpire just don't understand what the umpires do. The technology is, at least, close to being able to replace the umpires calls of balls and strikes but that's it. Still need the HP umpire to call CI, BI, tips, checked-swings, etc., and you'll need him there to call any pitches that the technology fails to record.

Andrelton Simmons, of the Braves, made a tag behind him through his legs at 2B. I think it was in the 2014 season but it could have been early 2015.

This one is even better...

Thanks, Kevin...

I wonder if any paper's announced his death with the headline "It's over"?

http://m.mlb.com/video/v453871383/ Why is this not running out of the baseline? Sure looks like more than 3' on the replay from the outfield 3BL camera. Gotta love the announcer, "He has every right to run out of the baseline to avoid the tag!"

I was in the 3B dugout so didn't have the best angle but the ball came down just on the outfield side of the baseline near 1B. F3 was under the ball but failed to make a catch--not sure if he touched it during his attempt. The umpires called the IF but didn't even consider INT. The defensive manager called time and went to the PU and asked for the INT call. The umpires got together and discussed it but ruled no INT. Their explanations included, "It's an IF fly" and "there was no chance for a play" (though R2 and R3 were both off their bases looking for an opportunity to advance). Play continued without protest. At the next changeover the BU came over and said that the manager was correct, it should have been INT. What I'm trying to figure out is if R1 touching the live ball is enough, in itself, for INT or if the umpire must make some judgement regarding the likeliness of a play being made if not for R1's action. Seems like there's still some disagreement on this point. Would like to hear what Maven would have to say on this point. Thanks...

LL Seniors division is 15/16 yrs.

What I'm trying to find out is if R1's intentionally picking up the ball is enough to have him out on INT or if the umpire must also judge that the defense had a chance at making another out and R1 interfered with their chance to make it. In this case, R3 was 15'-20' off 3B watching the action at 1B ready to break home if the opportunity presented itself but I'm more interested in the rule itself.