mstaylor

8.4.2 covers a host of plays, only one(situation B) addresses a foul ball. The comment is to cover the entire rule. I would absolutely say there is no case where you might not get two outs on a foul ball but I can't think of one.

Boy do we need some baseball.

If Eric is instructing it will be a very good clinic. I have been to several clinics with him and he is an excellent instructor.

Consider him as passed a base when he does it. If he doesn't pass then you can't rule he did. Now if he slides that close, I feel confident he was over or beside it while getting up.

My point is the casebook says one out, put the batter back. I understand what you are saying about the R2 but I don't seriously if I would call a second out.

On a deep fly foul, get out as far as possible and still set. If it is very close, start walking toward it so when the coach turns you are much closer than when actually made the call. The perception is you got way out to look at it.

Good to see you Dash

I was watching the 500 meter Women's Speed skating. A German skater was called for a false start for starting up too fast. They restart and she flinched her arm and was DQed for a second false start. Four years of training and her Olympics were done. Her arm was so slight that you couldn't see it until replay. My first thought was, flinch balk.

Many things we do as umpires is not written in the rulebook but in the interp manuals. There are interps and something called common usage. I assure you if you ask this question at any pro clinic you will get the same answer. Returning does not necessarily translate to touch the base. Go to MLB.com and there is an Ask the Ump section. Ask Rick Roder if retouching is required.

I didn't write the casebook, I just use it.

Surprisingly you will see a pitcher arbitrarily throwing to the SS or F5 when mad at a batter or umpire. Basically he gets pissed off and wastes time to stick it up one or the other's butt.

Welcome to the site.

A foul is never going to be a double play foiled so you can't get the second out.

Correct, both have to be touching for the trail runner to be called out.

Runner is called out and call the ball foul. 8.4.2 Situation B

Fed views obstruction as unsporting, possibly dangerous, so they want any obstruction to have a punitive reaction. Even if he makes it back, if the fielder makes it harder to do so then there is obstruction.

http://www.chsbua.com/ This is the contact for the Denver area group. I think I know at least two in the group from the internet.

Welcome to the site and the avocation. Graduating pro school will give you a leg up for sure. PM UIC and see if there are members here in your area. If not, contact your local HS and find out where they get their umpires. Best way to figure out the local contact.

Punchy for sure. :lol:

Pretty much in Fed, unless he makes no advance, I'm not balking him. In OBR he has to a real attempt to advance, use your own standard on that. Have I explained rules to coaches in a relaxed setting, absolutely.

Pro runners do it between almost every pitch, foul or not. The pitchers are good enough to pick you with the slightest mistake. That doesn't change the fact that it isn't necessary. Watch any R3 with a LH pitcher, he isn't touching because he knows a LH will almost never pick to third, too low a percentage play.

What are you referring to? Don't all PBUC invites usually end up with jobs? Some internet detective to identify a person that was on the other side of the country. Nothing major, just many don't realize just how open the internet is. I have always been very open so you could find out a ton about me. PBUC invites are simply the top grads from both schools being further evaluated. As Haid says you get a job,go to the Coastal Plains or go home and sit on a list. As openings happen they generally pull from CPL, then replace them from the standby list. The fact remains that if you get invited to PBUC, you are pretty damn good.

When I work youth ball I talk with fans all the time. If they want to up the ante I shut it down, but that is a very rare occasion. I have had fans approach after the game. I have had guys coming at us screaming, they get the same stop sign I use on coaches, then tell them we are not having a discussion right now. If they come up and asks a genuine question they get an answer. Say there as a balk, I explain it and they say he didn't do what I called, I tell them that was what I saw. If you saw something different, fine but I can only call what I saw.

If back surgery is needed, get it done. I would certainly consult a Chiro first. He may be able to relieve the pressure and at least extend the time needed for surgery. I am in that boat right now, several disks are more gone than not. I am told I will need replacement at some point but the chiropractor is extending that time. The same one examined one of my employees, told him he couldn't touch him without risk of paralyzing him. He had his partner check him and they agreed, got him an appointment with a surgeon and had him operated on with-in days.

Impossible. The ball is dead when it hits him. It's a dead-ball strike or dead-ball ball, but it's definitely dead. .......and if it's a dead-ball 'ball' ....then he gets first base on a HBP... What if he purposely moved his hands to be hit by the pitch? Technically a HBP but he is staying in the box.