OOB Call. ATL@NYM 5/3/18

[Larry in TN]

I'd be interested on anyone's thoughts on this out-of-baseline call.  It starts 0:21 into the video.

https://www.mlb.com/video/cg-atlnym-5318/c-2003215783?tid=6479266

R1 was called out for OOB.  There was no tag.  Can't see how he moved more than 3' before, or during, the tag-attempt.  Most of his movement away from his baseline was after the tag-attempt had been abandoned.  Does that still count or was there 3' while the tag was still being attempted?

 

[maven]

I think U2 got fooled a bit. F4 was moving into the infield, with his momentum pulling him away from R1 as he tried to tag him. We don't get a good look at the best angle—which U1, not U2, might have had—and indeed the camera angle is a lot like U2's. The live action shot makes it look like OOB as R1 goes around the outstretched arm of F4. That's our usual indicator for OOB.

That said, the only close-up shot is super slo-mo, which makes it easy to measure distance and watch how the runners move. I don't think this call is reviewable, but I'd guess that after watching the play U2 felt that he got fooled on this one.

[BT_Blue]

Add to that, it looks like Cabrera's tag was in the direction of the first base bag. So Albies jumping to the side would not constitute him going OOB since his movement one direct on the others was not away from the tag.

[maven]

3 hours ago, BT_Blue said:

Add to that, it looks like Cabrera's tag was in the direction of the first base bag. So Albies jumping to the side would not constitute him going OOB since his movement one direct on the others was not away from the tag.

Incorrect. OOB has nothing to do with the line between the bases. The line connects the point occupied by the runner when the tag attempt begins and the base toward which he is running. He is out if he deviates more than 3' from that line in order to avoid that tag attempt.

[BT_Blue]

3 hours ago, maven said:

Incorrect. OOB has nothing to do with the line between the bases. The line connects the point occupied by the runner when the tag attempt begins and the base toward which he is running. He is out if he deviates more than 3' from that line in order to avoid that tag attempt.

I think we are lost in translation here.

I am merely commenting that the tag attempt seems to be directly in front if the fielder rather than to one side or the other as normal.

So, IMHO, R1 did not go outside the 3' he is allowed. But can see how his movement and the way the tag attempt happened. He could get fooled.

[dumbdumb]

I carry an official 'Rhino accordion ruler' and have never had any trouble with the OOB situations to the front, back or sides. Takes the "in my  judgment" right out of the equation.

[johnnyg08]