Kershaw loses his cool

[stkjock]

Wonder if anyone saw this?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/clayton-kershaw-loses-his-mind--slams-ball-into-ground-then-fires-it-into-dugout-050554416.html

 

I'm guessing time had been granted when he throws the ball wildly into the dugout or base awards would have been invoked. 

 

[Jimurray]

Wonder if anyone saw this?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/clayton-kershaw-loses-his-mind--slams-ball-into-ground-then-fires-it-into-dugout-050554416.html

 

I'm guessing time had been granted when he throws the ball wildly into the dugout or base awards would have been invoked. 

 

Time wasn't granted to anyone. PU probably called time to change out the ball as you can see Kershaw putting his glove up to receive the new ball.

[Thunderheads]

he wasn't happy at all last night ...........

[DVA7130]

At this level especially, why not just call the quick pitch?

That was quite a reaction from the catcher as well.

[stkjock]

Time wasn't granted to anyone. PU probably called time to change out the ball as you can see Kershaw putting his glove up to receive the new ball.

probably poor choice of words on my part, time had been called, would have been better

he wasn't happy at all last night ...........

I saw that video earlier and one of the guys in the office is a Dodgers fan and told/showed me the video in the OP

[grayhawk]

At this level especially, why not just call the quick pitch?

That was quite a reaction from the catcher as well.

Because it's dangerous.

[UMP45]

Just out of curiosity had time been called before he launched the ball in to the dugout?

[Jimurray]

Just out of curiosity had time been called before he launched the ball in to the dugout?

Sort of. Tichenor reached in his ball bag to lob a new ball to the catcher just prior to the throw. He kinds of lobs the ball and signals time at the same time. I think Kersaw could see that a new ball was coming in.

[DVA7130]

Because it's dangerous.

Seriously? This was the as by the book QP as they come. Add the ball to the count if the batter doesn't end up on first and move on after explaining it.

Just killing it and doing a LL do-over didn't do much in the ways of not getting an argument anyways...

[grayhawk]

Seriously? This was the as by the book QP as they come. Add the ball to the count if the batter doesn't end up on first and move on after explaining it.

Just killing it and doing a LL do-over didn't do much in the ways of not getting an argument anyways...

I want to be crystal clear here.  DO NOT EVER, under ANY circumstances, allow a pitcher to deliver when you know the batter isn't looking.  If the batter becomes seriously injured, then you can and should be held liable if you had the ability to stop it.  This isn't some LL do-over.  It's incumbent upon us to keep this from happening at any level.  Yes, I am dead serious.

[DVA7130]

I want to be crystal clear here.  DO NOT EVER, under ANY circumstances, allow a pitcher to deliver when you know the batter isn't looking.  If the batter becomes seriously injured, then you can and should be held liable if you had the ability to stop it.  This isn't some LL do-over.  It's incumbent upon us to keep this from happening at any level.  Yes, I am dead serious.

Ah, I'm liable for a pitcher throwing the ball during liveball action. AT THE MAJOR LEAGUE LEVEL AT THAT. I'll alert the lawyers right away, at that, I will go officiate grass growing competitions so there is no risk to anybody.

What a waste of ink writing out the QP rule, someone should be liable about that..

[Jimurray]

Ah, I'm liable for a pitcher throwing the ball during liveball action. AT THE MAJOR LEAGUE LEVEL AT THAT. I'll alert the lawyers right away, at that, I will go officiate grass growing competitions so there is no risk to anybody.

What a waste of ink writing out the QP rule, someone should be liable about that..

Wendelstedt adds a note to this rule and says: "This can often be prevented by the plate umpire calling "time" when he recognizes that the pitcher is about to pitch when the batter is not reasonably set."

[grayhawk]

Ah, I'm liable for a pitcher throwing the ball during liveball action. AT THE MAJOR LEAGUE LEVEL AT THAT. I'll alert the lawyers right away, at that, I will go officiate grass growing competitions so there is no risk to anybody.

What a waste of ink writing out the QP rule, someone should be liable about that..

You'll be hard pressed to find a single sane umpire in these forums that agrees with you.  Also, apparently Tichenor (and Wendelstedt - thanks @Jimurray) thinks it's a bad idea to let F1 deliver in this situation, and I suspect they're fairly qualified.  As far as the QP rule itself is concerned, did you ever think a pitcher might just blow through a stop sign and pitch anyway?  Or step on and pitch before an unfocused or distracted umpire can stop him?

It's dangerous and should never be allowed to happen, if the umpire has an opportunity to stop it.

[basejester]

I think he should have tossed the catcher.

 

[stkjock]

I was surprised he didn't. 

[UMP45]

At this level especially, why not just call the quick pitch?

That was quite a reaction from the catcher as well.

Because at this LEVEL you could consider the baseball a lethal weapon!

[basejester]

As far as the QP rule itself is concerned, did you ever think a pitcher might just blow through a stop sign and pitch anyway?

If he blows through the stop sign, the defense will argue the ball is dead and there can be no penalty.  What do we tell the manager?

 

 

[grayhawk]

If he blows through the stop sign, the defense will argue the ball is dead and there can be no penalty.  What do we tell the manager?

 

 

You're absolutely right. Poor example.

[basejester]

6.02

(5) The pitcher makes an illegal pitch;
Rule 6.02 (a )(5) Comment ( Rule 8.05(e) Comment ) : A quick
pitch is an illegal pitch. Umpires will judge a quick pitch as
one delivered before the batter is reasonably set in the batter’s
box. With runners on base the penalty is a balk; with no run-
ners on base, it is a ball. The quick pitch is dangerous and
should not be permitted

[scrounge]

6.02

(5) The pitcher makes an illegal pitch;
Rule 6.02 (a )(5) Comment ( Rule 8.05(e) Comment ) : A quick
pitch is an illegal pitch. Umpires will judge a quick pitch as
one delivered before the batter is reasonably set in the batter’s
box. With runners on base the penalty is a balk; with no run-
ners on base, it is a ball. The quick pitch is dangerous and
should not be permitted

I think that pretty much settles it...the clear language of the rule says the reason (it's dangerous) and the preferred approach (do not permit it), with the prescribed penalty if it happens anyway.

Stop it if you can, penalize it if it happens anyway.

[mrumpiresir]

Order the pitcher to wait until the batter is ready for the pitch.   If he continually ignores you, I think you could use 9.01(b) to justify an ejection.

9.01(b) Each umpire is the representative of the league and of professional baseball, and is authorized and required to enforce all of these rules. Each umpire has authority to
order a player, coach, manager or club officer or employee to do or refrain from doing anything which affects the administering of these rules, and to enforce the
prescribed penalties.