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Prior to MLB putting replay in, this would never be called out in a million years.  I've not seen an umpire freeze like this in a long time.

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When I watch that, I see an umpire who was unsure of what he saw, take an extra second before making the call (so far, so good), then pooching a pretty obvious drop (not good).  Then I see IR properly used (in my opinion) to over turn a blown call.  Perfect!  That's what the system should be used for (I'd go on, but we discussed this at length in another thread).  I guess I don't see how it changed the umpire.

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Yea, I think I'm with Elk on this one. Umpire, quite understandably, thought he saw a transfer or got tunnel vision or whatever, missed the call. But with IR fixing it, it's a minor footnote that will be out of the news cycle by this evening. Otherwise, it's the front story on Deadspin and a lead-in for Jimmy Fallon "oh, those stupid umps" segment.

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You know, we (baseball fans) were just discussing it in the stands after/while this exact play was taking place in Miller Park.1234 Instant Replay hasn't changed umpires, persay. What has been revealed in the past 3-4 years of Instant Replay is that, the majority of the time, the umpires are right.

What Instant Replay is changing (and by and large reducing or eliminating) is all the theatrics and arguing that managers and players used to do. I can probably count on one hand the number of players who have gotten tossed this year for arguing a field (non balls-and-strikes) call, because that play can (and usually does) get reviewed. Keeping players in the ballgame is a win-win for all involved, besides the "getting the call right" reasoning.

1- Yes, I'm a Brewers fan.
2- Yes, I realize we're have a SH*# down year. Don't need a reminder. Especially if you're a frakkin' enthusiastic Cardinals fan.
3- No, I didn't tell anyone sitting around me I'm an umpire. I didn't want to embarrass my girlfriend.
4- Rackley ruled that Rizzo's foot was off the bag (however minuscule). The Instant Replay review is to determine / confirm that, not whether or not the ball beat Lind to the glove (which it did). Hey, Cubs fan... sit down, shut up, and quit gesturing towards the center field screen! ... No, sweetie, I don't mean you.

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When I watch that, I see an umpire who was unsure of what he saw, take an extra second before making the call (so far, so good), then pooching a pretty obvious drop (not good).  Then I see IR properly used (in my opinion) to over turn a blown call.  Perfect!  That's what the system should be used for (I'd go on, but we discussed this at length in another thread).  I guess I don't see how it changed the umpire.

They don't blow calls they MISS calls!

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It's changed the very fabric of the Game.

 

There was a close play at first the other night, And instead of the runner getting mad, or the manager coming out with his hat on backwards, they all waited for the bench coach to make a f@#ing phone call. Cue the Jeopardy music. Then the manager makes his request, and the guy with Samsung hat and the oversized fanny pack comes strolling on the field. Three minutes later, after the crowd has seen it replayed 18 times, someone in New York City flips a coin.

 

Yeah, that's entertaining.

 

Oh, and make sure those batters stay in the box, Don't want to slow down the Game.

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They don't blow calls they MISS calls!

Blow, miss, pooch, kick, punt, screw up, F-up, get wrong... does it really matter what we call it?  As Bill Belichick is fond of saying, "It is what it is."

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What I mean by changing the game is the way this umpire freezes (we all do from time to time), but then goes against his instincts and calls the guy out with the ball on the ground.  He knows that he has a safety net (less so since he is a AAA call-up guy) that is going to bail him out and the fact that he has to worry (second guess) about it at all likely causes the freak out to begin with.  When Bannister comes out, its almost like he can't wait for replay to fix it for him.  BTW...Any idea why did this need to go to IR?  Maybe since it was going to be a CC review anyway, it is inconsequential...but I would think the crew would conference and get the ball on the ground safe call...and make the defense challenge for the out if this had happened earlier in the game.  Any thoughts on that?

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Blow, miss, pooch, kick, punt, screw up, F-up, get wrong... does it really matter what we call it?  As Bill Belichick is fond of saying, "It is what it is."

Yes it matters. Blow, pooch,screw up, F-up are woods that a FAN would use which lets me know you are still watching the game as a fan instead of as n umpire. Two different worlds.

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Blow, miss, pooch, kick, punt, screw up, F-up, get wrong... does it really matter what we call it?  As Bill Belichick is fond of saying, "It is what it

Missed or kicked...only.  However, it's always "kicked" because I see every pitch and every play I have to call on a diamond.  So, I never "miss" calls...I kick them!

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Yes it matters. Blow, pooch,screw up, F-up are woods that a FAN would use which lets me know you are still watching the game as a fan instead of as n umpire. Two different worlds.

Whatever. I'm with ElkOil - it doesn't matter what you call it. I say I "blow" calls - I saw it and my timing was off or I didn't get in the correct position, ergo, I blew it.

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Whatever. I'm with ElkOil - it doesn't matter what you call it. I say I "blow" calls - I saw it and my timing was off or I didn't get in the correct position, ergo, I blew it.

You can say you blew your call, but how about we don't say that about someone else's calls...

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Yes it matters. Blow, pooch,screw up, F-up are woods that a FAN would use which lets me know you are still watching the game as a fan instead of as n umpire. Two different worlds.

That difference is lost on me.  I didn't know fans and umpires were restricted to using different vocabularies.  Those two "worlds" are not mutually exclusive.  You can be either or both.  The label you apply to how a call was handled has no meaning inherent to your perspective.

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That difference is lost on me.  I didn't know fans and umpires were restricted to using different vocabularies.  Those two "worlds" are not mutually exclusive.  You can be either or both.  The label you apply to how a call was handled has no meaning inherent to your perspective.

You can either be a fan, coach, player, or an umpire. If you mix any of the others with umpiring then the umpiring suffers.

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Umpire was watching the feet. Never saw the bobble. Assume he caught it the dropped it.

Nothing to do with instant replay.

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