Timing/Appeal/Force/Other?

[Guest Baseball17]

On another forum, this has multiple answers, and I don't know which correct.  Runners on first and third, one out.  Fly ball to left, catch is made, runner on third tags and scores, runner from first advanced beyond second when catch was made, returned to first, but did not retouch second on way back to first.  I'm not sure how the play was made, whether, throw to second, appeal, or what, but the original post said runner was called out and run from third base taken back off board.  How is this possible?  I apologize for not having more details, just following other forum and no consensus yet.

[Replacematt]

I saw that question. It's simple. The umpires screwed up. This is an appeal of a miss of a non-forced base, thus a time play.

[noumpere]

Either it was described wrong, or the umpires were wrong, or there was something else (e.g., R3 was also appealed for leaving early).

[grayhawk]

I saw that question. It's simple. The umpires screwed up. This is an appeal of a miss of a non-forced base, thus a time play.

Agreed. This is an easy one that should not have multiple answers. Was it an umpire forum?

[Guest Baseball17]

Thanks, that make sense to me.  I'm not an umpire, but I do try to read and understand the rules to the best of my limited ability.  I can understand a time play, but I couldn't see how they could take the run off the board without instituting a force, and that was beyond me.

[maven]

Maybe the catch was the 3rd out.

[law_reb]

I had a high school playoff game last week in which I had to explain the appeal ruling to a head coach.  Runners on 1st and 3rd with 1 out.  Fly ball to center field.  Ball is caught by the centerfielder(2 outs).   Runner on 3rd tags and scores after the catch.  Runner from 1st had rounded 2nd base headed for 3rd base.  After the catch he heads back to 1st base, but the throw from the centerfielder beats him back to the bag(3 outs).  The runner touched home plate well before the appeal at 1st base.  I point at the plate and announce the run scores on the timing play.  He can't understand why.  He says it was a force play at 1st base, and the run can't score on the force out.  I tried explaining that, in fact, it wasn't a force out, but an appeal for leaving the base prior to the ball being touched by the outfielder.  Appeal plays are timing plays, thus the run counts since he touched home plate before the out was recorded.  He didn't want to buy what I was selling, but he sees he's not going to win and heads to the dugout shaking his head in disbelief with no further incident. 

[ArkBlue]

There can be no force outs when a fly ball is caught.