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[rjt6]

since this is about ejections, I put this question in this category. 

 

Here it is: I've seen in some games the ump has ejected people after the game is over, what's the point of that?

[umpstu]

The point is to prevent coaches or players from coming up and verbally or physically assaulting an umpire after a game. This is a big no no for coaches or players if there is a suspension that goes along with it.

[afaber12]

If a player or coach says or does something worthy of an ejection, then there'll likely be either some sort of automatic penalty such as a suspension, or some sort of tribunal/judiciary process to work out what penalty is appropriate. Why should that be any different because the result of that game has been determined?

 

You shouldn't go looking for someone to eject after the game of course, (not that you should go looking during the game either) which is probably part of the reason why some umpires recommend leaving the field via the winners' dugout. Its definitely why part of the reason why you shouldn't hang around on the field though. If the game's over, then generally speaking your responsibilities on the field are over. There might be signing off of results and scorebooks, in some cases its naming a MVP, but not stuff on the field.

[mjr_2013]

In some leagues, ejections come with suspensions. In some for-pay leagues, they also come with fines. Ejectable behavior is unacceptable no matter when in the game it occurs. Even in leagues that this doesn't occur, a post game ejection shows the player or coach that the behavior crossed a line, and can help establish a pattern in the leagues eyes.

[BT_Blue]

The NCAA actually has a post game ejection rule.

[afaber12]

After posting earlier I checked the local league I do most games for. They have prescribed minimum penalties, as the number of weeks they'd be suspended for, for at least the offences most likely to occur. I'm aware of situations where the player in question has been found guilty of the offence in question, but because of the particular circumstances the penalty has been suspended for a period of time (I think 12 months). I'm not certain, but I think if they offended again in any way within that time frame, they'd face both the old and the new run consecutively.

 

Among the various offences is "abuse of an umpire". It's listed twice though, once as is with a minimum 4 weeks, and the other as "abuse of an umpire after game completion" with a minimum of 8 weeks. That last one translates to half a season.

[umpstu]

After posting earlier I checked the local league I do most games for. They have prescribed minimum penalties, as the number of weeks they'd be suspended for, for at least the offences most likely to occur. I'm aware of situations where the player in question has been found guilty of the offence in question, but because of the particular circumstances the penalty has been suspended for a period of time (I think 12 months). I'm not certain, but I think if they offended again in any way within that time frame, they'd face both the old and the new run consecutively.

 

Among the various offences is "abuse of an umpire". It's listed twice though, once as is with a minimum 4 weeks, and the other as "abuse of an umpire after game completion" with a minimum of 8 weeks. That last one translates to half a season.

I sure as hell hope they suspended Joshua Roberts. What a cheap shot artist he is. ABL.

[dumbdumb]

 

After posting earlier I checked the local league I do most games for. They have prescribed minimum penalties, as the number of weeks they'd be suspended for, for at least the offences most likely to occur. I'm aware of situations where the player in question has been found guilty of the offence in question, but because of the particular circumstances the penalty has been suspended for a period of time (I think 12 months). I'm not certain, but I think if they offended again in any way within that time frame, they'd face both the old and the new run consecutively.

 

Among the various offences is "abuse of an umpire". It's listed twice though, once as is with a minimum 4 weeks, and the other as "abuse of an umpire after game completion" with a minimum of 8 weeks. That last one translates to half a season.

I sure as hell hope they suspended Joshua Roberts. What a cheap shot artist he is. ABL.

 

you mean the guy running out of the dugout in the background and then delivering the cheapshot at :15-:16 on this video after the original collision at the plate???

 

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24395764/video-home-plate-collision-sparks-brawl-in-australian-baseball-league

 

game was 12/28--Roberts was kicked out by Hyman, and received a 6 game suspension, the longest in ABL history.

 

Crew was Paul Hyman (HP), Trent Thomas (1B), Jordan Taylor (3B)

[afaber12]

 

After posting earlier I checked the local league I do most games for. They have prescribed minimum penalties, as the number of weeks they'd be suspended for, for at least the offences most likely to occur. I'm aware of situations where the player in question has been found guilty of the offence in question, but because of the particular circumstances the penalty has been suspended for a period of time (I think 12 months). I'm not certain, but I think if they offended again in any way within that time frame, they'd face both the old and the new run consecutively.   Among the various offences is "abuse of an umpire". It's listed twice though, once as is with a minimum 4 weeks, and the other as "abuse of an umpire after game completion" with a minimum of 8 weeks. That last one translates to half a season.

I sure as hell hope they suspended Joshua Roberts. What a cheap shot artist he is. ABL.   you mean the guy running out of the dugout in the background and then delivering the cheapshot at :15-:16 on this video after the original collision at the plate???   http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24395764/video-home-plate-collision-sparks-brawl-in-australian-baseball-league   game was 12/28--Roberts was kicked out by Hyman, and received a 6 game suspension, the longest in ABL history.   Crew was Paul Hyman (HP), Trent Thomas (1B), Jordan Taylor (3B) Hyham and Thomas would be if not the most then among the most experienced umpires in the state, and are top instructors, as well as just being great guys. Taylor was doing either his first or second ABL game. Haven't worked a game with him but another great guy. Interesting way to start out at that level.

[rjt6]

 

 

After posting earlier I checked the local league I do most games for. They have prescribed minimum penalties, as the number of weeks they'd be suspended for, for at least the offences most likely to occur. I'm aware of situations where the player in question has been found guilty of the offence in question, but because of the particular circumstances the penalty has been suspended for a period of time (I think 12 months). I'm not certain, but I think if they offended again in any way within that time frame, they'd face both the old and the new run consecutively.   Among the various offences is "abuse of an umpire". It's listed twice though, once as is with a minimum 4 weeks, and the other as "abuse of an umpire after game completion" with a minimum of 8 weeks. That last one translates to half a season.

I sure as hell hope they suspended Joshua Roberts. What a cheap shot artist he is. ABL.   you mean the guy running out of the dugout in the background and then delivering the cheapshot at :15-:16 on this video after the original collision at the plate???   http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24395764/video-home-plate-collision-sparks-brawl-in-australian-baseball-league   game was 12/28--Roberts was kicked out by Hyman, and received a 6 game suspension, the longest in ABL history.   Crew was Paul Hyman (HP), Trent Thomas (1B), Jordan Taylor (3B) Hyham and Thomas would be if not the most then among the most experienced umpires in the state, and are top instructors, as well as just being great guys. Taylor was doing either his first or second ABL game. Haven't worked a game with him but another great guy. Interesting way to start out at that level.

 

@afaber12

 

How long have Hyham and Thomas been umpires?

 

Also, I think Hyham worked in the 2013 World Baseball Classic

[afaber12]

Not too sure how long Hyham's been umpiring, but yes he did both the 2009 and 2013 WBC, he's done Asian Championships, in 2008 did the final qualifying tournament for the Olympics as well as doing the Olympic Games themselves, and was named the IBAF International Umpire of the Year in 2009. At a national level he's been doing Claxton Shield tournaments/Australian Baseball League games since about 2004. He's definitely got credentials, and would probably be the most experienced, recognized, and well-regarded umpire in the state if not the country.

 

Thomas has been umpiring since 1992, has done several junior and senior national tournaments, as been appointed to at least a couple of international series, and is the current State Director of Umpiring for New South Wales - I suppose the position's basically the head instructor for the state. I'm pretty sure both have attended professional schools in the US.