cabrera/leyland upset

[johnnyg08]

"another word and your gone"

In my first year of umpiring, many, many years ago, I said "one more word and you're gone" to a coach and he looked back at me and said "word"

 

 

So for me, I don't use that line anymore.  

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"another word and your gone"

In my first year of umpiring, many, many years ago, I said "one more word and you're gone" to a coach and he looked back at me and said "word"

 

 

So for me, I don't use that line anymore.  

 

You had to EJ, right?

[johnnyg08]

Yes, I did, but I wasn't proud of how I handled the situation with poor word choice.

[johnnyg08]

Why warn him after he got to use the "key words" once already.  He already got his in...

 

This is big boy baseball.  Miggy knows what he's doing.

 

I will never be a big league umpire, but even at the levels I work, I don't care what the fans think about me.  

 

If you do care what the fans think about you, umpiring likely isn't for you. 

[mjr_2013]

 

 

And straight up ejecting Cabrera doesn't come of as confrontational and deescalation?

 

The relevent comparison is between a demonstrative warning and understated one, not between a demonstrative warning and an ejection.

 

 

I understand what you're saying, but I think if the understated warning was more vocal and more obvious, this EJ wouldn't have happened. I'm not suggesting that Fairchild should have shown Cabrera up or been outlandish in telling him off. I'm just saying that if he warns him to where everyone knows he's been warned, and then he gets tossed, well, he "had it coming" when he continued... Even if the warning was made after the first pitch.

 

 

 

If you were going to warn him off to help him save himself ... and I'm not saying Fairchild should have in this case ... you wouldn't want to pull the mask off. That would have come off as deliberately confrontational and contrary to the notion of deescalation. And then it probably leads to an EJ anyway.

 

And straight up ejecting Cabrera doesn't come of as confrontational and deescalation? I'm not saying to whip it off and get into Cabrera's face. I'm saying take off the mask, look at Cabrera, and tell him "Excuse me?" ... Everyone in the stadium now knows there is a problem here...

 

It MAY still lead to an ejection, but if manager and player don't want it to, it won't.

 

Who cares what "everyone in the stadium" thinks!

 

 

By "everyone in the stadium", I mean Cabrera, the Tigers, and Leyland... If they know that further barking won't be tolerated, I bet there isn't a problem for the rest of the game. 

 

The funny part is - they were both strikes, and not even borderline.

 

 

 

 I agree with this 100%. The first looked worse than it was thanks to F2, but both were absolutely strikes.

[scrounge]

@mjr_2013, does Cabrera really need a warning for "You're a piece of sh*t"? Cause from looking at the video, to me that's clearly what he said. If you don't eject for a profane and personal remark like that, might as well get a Sharpie and write "WELCOME" all over your chest.

[mjr_2013]

@mjr_2013, does Cabrera really need a warning for "You're a piece of sh*t"? Cause from looking at the video, to me that's clearly what he said. If you don't eject for a profane and personal remark like that, might as well get a Sharpie and write "WELCOME" all over your chest.

 

 

I thought it was agreed that he said "You're (That's) horrible"?

[scrounge]

 

@mjr_2013, does Cabrera really need a warning for "You're a piece of sh*t"? Cause from looking at the video, to me that's clearly what he said. If you don't eject for a profane and personal remark like that, might as well get a Sharpie and write "WELCOME" all over your chest.

 

 

I thought it was agreed that he said "You're (That's) horrible"?

 

 

You're right, my mistake....got my videos mixed up. Still, after being told after the 1st pitch to knock it off, Cabrera still went personal.

[RichMSN]

"another word and your gone"

In my first year of umpiring, many, many years ago, I said "one more word and you're gone" to a coach and he looked back at me and said "word"

 

 

So for me, I don't use that line anymore.  

I agree with you but the coach in your example ended up ejecting himself regardless of how it came about.

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[JHSump]

The funny part is - they were both strikes, and not even borderline.

If the batter was personal, good EJ.  If he was personal and profane, better still.

 

But there is something else going on here, which might be worth mentioning.  Grayhawk notes these were not even borderline strikes.  A strike zone display shows these pitches to be near the heart of the plate.  If Cabrera is the best hitter in baseball, and this was a big spot (bases loaded, down 1 run), and the Tigers were counting on him for some RBI here, why did he take those pitches?  Especially since it's only 1 out --- even a fly ball scores a run.  And, then why take it out on the umpire??

 

I'm not trying to psychoanalyze Cabrera or Leyland, but is all this fussing just to deflect notice off the more obvious question for Tiger fans: WTF was Cabrera doing taking those pitches?

 

The umpire did not "take the bat out of his hands."  Cabrera did that too himself, and got himself EJ'ed at the same time, in a big spot.  That's a pretty big story being ignored by the Tigers, and the press, in the rush to blame the umpire.  (Unless someone can find an article or interview that says otherwise.)

[mstaylor]

He may not have gotten in the umpire's face or was demonstrative but he was yakking nonstop, was looking back doing it, was warned and got personal and profane,plus the pitches were there. How the devil does he not toss?