Easiest Ejection Ever

[Magic]

I was doing a USSSA tournament yesterday. In the Semi Final of the game, the Coach from Team A asked to see Team B's Pitching Log. Coach from Team B didn't have one. I don't now how they got all the way to the Semi's without umpires signing the pitching log but they did. So I had to eject the Head Coach. I even asked him if he wanted to come kick dirt on me or something to make it worth it for him? He politely said no that's ok, I will just leave. Can anyone top that as the easiest EJ ever?????

[grayhawk]

You're such a redass!  

[gnhbua93]

I like to put light on a fire   on an argument but you beat me by 3 fields. 

[semper_fi_72]

OMG

You are such a HardA**

Just kidding

Great job and Welcome to USSSA Baseball.

I have had that one before except when it occurred the SoCal Director was working as the TD that day and he actually made the ejection when he brought the score cards to the field to verify the innings pitched on a kid because the pitching log got left home. 

[Magic]

Well the tournament Director had to come down. Because we needed verification of the Pitching innings. But he said yeah you have to eject him. I said ok. I walked over and said Coach you are ejected you have to leave.

[semper_fi_72]

Now that your working USSSA games, hopefully we will work together sometime soon.

[Minnz]

Further proof the umpires and pitching logs have no place together.

[Dragon29]

Further proof the umpires and pitching logs have no place together.

Amen!

[semper_fi_72]

 

Further proof the umpires and pitching logs have no place together.

Amen!

 

USSSA Rules.

Innings pitched are tracked on the lineup/score card.

Who would you say should sign off and verify how many innings a kid pitched in any game?

It isn't a problem and is very easy.

[carolinablue]

During game:

 

Coach: " Come on Blue, call it both ways."

 

Coach: " Why aren't we getting that strike."

 

Coach: " There's two teams here Blue."

 

After game:

 

Coach: " Blue, will you to sign this, we need someone impartial to do it."

[scrounge]

 

 

Further proof the umpires and pitching logs have no place together.

Amen!

 

USSSA Rules.

Innings pitched are tracked on the lineup/score card.

Who would you say should sign off and verify how many innings a kid pitched in any game?

It isn't a problem and is very easy.

 

 

Why not get both coaches to sign each others' cards? They're the ones who should be paying attention. I have no idea how many innings a kid pitched.

[Dragon29]

. . . and, I just don't like playing 'hall monitor'

[semper_fi_72]

 

 

 

Further proof the umpires and pitching logs have no place together.

Amen!

 

USSSA Rules.

Innings pitched are tracked on the lineup/score card.

Who would you say should sign off and verify how many innings a kid pitched in any game?

It isn't a problem and is very easy.

 

 

Why not get both coaches to sign each others' cards? They're the ones who should be paying attention. I have no idea how many innings a kid pitched.

 

Yes you do know how many innings they pitched because you have a separate section of the line up/scorecard that lists pitchers.

When a change is made, you list it on the card.

No different from any substitution.

After the game each manager signs the card, verifying the score and pitching.  Umpire signs the pitching log.

A pitch thrown in any inning is a inning pitched except in USSSA World Series where it is tracked by 1/3 of inning.

 

The key thing here is when you Umpire for an organization you follow their tournament rules.

They are paying you to do it.

It is that simple.

Otherwise don't work for them.

 

Me:  If they want me to track innings pitched, I will and take the money all the way to the bank.

[semper_fi_72]

During game:

 

Coach: " Come on Blue, call it both ways."

 

Coach: " Why aren't we getting that strike."

 

Coach: " There's two teams here Blue."

 

After game:

 

Coach: " Blue, will you to sign this, we need someone impartial to do it."

First, I very seldom here here those comments when I have the plate. 

Second, most of the time it is a Mom or Dad who is keeping the book and pitching log and they have it ready for you when the game is over.

Third, it is in the tournament rules.

Fourth, your verifying their log against your line up/score card.  Nothing about being impartial about it.

Fifth, You don't like it don't work USSSA games.

[Dragon29]

Hey! No-one said they wouldn't do it - but we don't have to like the fact that we have to do it. Just venting, man!

[blue23ll]

So, if the coach didn't have the pitching log, and knew he would be ejected, why did he bother to show up?

[grayhawk]

I can verify what Lou is saying.  It's very easy to track innings pitched on the scorecard.  I simply write a tick mark next to the pitcher's name in the pitching section for each inning, and then do the same for relief pitchers.  I note what inning they relieved if they did so in the middle of an inning.  We then check against their log at the end of the game.  There are rarely discrepancies, but it does happen.

[mstaylor]

Because he suffered from CRS and had no idea he didn't have it.

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[semper_fi_72]

Because he suffered from CRS and had no idea he didn't have it.

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It also does not become a issue unless the opposing team asks to see the pitching log.

In 4 years, I only had two managers ask to see the other teams pitching log either before or during a game.

Both occurred in the Championship game.

[BigUmp56]

It also does not become a issue unless the opposing team asks to see the pitching log.

In 4 years, I only had two managers ask to see the other teams pitching log either before or during a game.

Both occurred in the Championship game.

 

 

 

And this is why we call them Rats..........

 

Tim.

[Magic]

Lou is right. If you pay me to do a job, I will do it. It is not any different than any other aspect of the game. If we were all told we had to track pitchers and innings pitched, we would do it and wouldnt say a word about it.

 

Lou it wasn't that hard. Team A asked for Team B's card. They had just watched the previous game in which the starting pitcher just finished pitching the game before. The kids starting off throwing hard and I am sure they wanted to know how many innings the kid had left. Team B was not very organized at all, but they could play.

 

On another note, since we were in the bracket side, I didn't sign the Pitching Log from the losing team, since they were going home. I Did have both teams sign the score card though. That is ok right?

[SoCal Lurker]

 

It also does not become a issue unless the opposing team asks to see the pitching log.

In 4 years, I only had two managers ask to see the other teams pitching log either before or during a game.

Both occurred in the Championship game.

 

 

 

And this is why we call them Rats..........

 

Tim.

 

 

Say what?!?  The championship game is when the log is most likely to matter -- not becuase of a cheap attempt to get the mgr kicked out but because that's when pitchers may have used up their eligibility or have limited eligibility.  Why do you feel the need to name call over a mgr who actually wants to know whether that kid on the mound can go 1 or 4 innings today. 

[semper_fi_72]

Lou is right. If you pay me to do a job, I will do it. It is not any different than any other aspect of the game. If we were all told we had to track pitchers and innings pitched, we would do it and wouldnt say a word about it.

 

Lou it wasn't that hard. Team A asked for Team B's card. They had just watched the previous game in which the starting pitcher just finished pitching the game before. The kids starting off throwing hard and I am sure they wanted to know how many innings the kid had left. Team B was not very organized at all, but they could play.

 

On another note, since we were in the bracket side, I didn't sign the Pitching Log from the losing team, since they were going home. I Did have both teams sign the score card though. That is ok right?

Bill

Yes once in bracket play there is no need to sign losing teams pitching log.

They are done and heading home.

[semper_fi_72]

 

It also does not become a issue unless the opposing team asks to see the pitching log.

In 4 years, I only had two managers ask to see the other teams pitching log either before or during a game.

Both occurred in the Championship game.

 

 

 

And this is why we call them Rats..........

 

Tim.

 

No you call them Rats.

Please do not include myself in the we.

I treat Managers and Coaches with respect as I want to be treated.

Calling them Rats is not respectful in my book.

[BigUmp56]

Wanting to know the status of the opposing teams pitchers can be accomplished without having their manager tossed on a technicality. Most of them are rats. If they weren't they wouldn't have waited until the championship game to question the opposing teams book. Please dont preach to me about the virtues of baseball coaches. I've had a manager in a BR senior regional wait until they'd lost a game lodge a protest afterwards because coaches on the opposing team didn't have perfectly matching uniforms. I had one rat lodge a protest in a LL district tournament for not having the prescribed amount of batting helmets available for a team. He did it AFTER his pitcher plunked a kid in the head and cracked his helmet! I've seen coaches berate their own pitchers for wanting to come out of games because their arms started hurting. Go read the thread I put up today about having to eject four individuals in one game. RATS!!

Tim.