Now what?

[Typhoon]

This happened to one of our younger guys last year. Count is 3 & 2 on batter, next pitch is ball 4.  The same batter comes to the plate and umpire thinks it is next batter. Next pitch is a strike. Now it hits the fan DT wants batter out, OT wants the walk. In short he placed runner on first because he screwed up and this would make it right. I thought that the batter and DT should also be paying attention to what is going on, so they must share some of the blame. Luckily next 2 batters flied out and inning was over. During this time it had started to rain and this might have had something that distracted him. The OT was from out of town so he didn't want to call it. Another thing was DT was losing badly. What are your thoughts?

[Guest]

Treat it as an improperly appealed BOO. Put the guy batting currently on 1B because PU screwed up and bring the proper batter to the plate and have him assume a 0-1 count because his buddy can't count to 4 either - you can't completely screw the DT.

[ikeequa]

Treat it as an improperly appealed BOO. Put the guy batting currently on 1B because PU screwed up and bring the proper batter to the plate and have him assume a 0-1 count because his buddy can't count to 4 either - you can't completely screw the DT.

But like someone said in my thread, he left the bases. Doesn't thank make him out under rule 7.08? If yes, then wouldn't the offense simply send the proper batter up to the plate with an 0-1 count?

[Jocko]

He never advanced to 1B, so he can't retreat. Bottom line is... EVERYBODY SCREWED UP. Gotta take the least sh*tty option. Either way, HP's got a sh*t sandwich to eat.

[umpcoachfather]

I dont even know what to say about this one.  other than, it shouldd never happen, it's completely controllable. 

[johnnyg08]

Ball 4.  Send him to 1B.  No argument there.  

 

As for the weather,  I don't care if a team came from Europe to play, if the field is unplayable, we're done.  Plain and simple. Where a team came from is not our problem. 

 

These are not difficult problems unless you try to let a coach manipulate you.  This wouldn't even get a discussion on my field. 

 

I'd like to say I've never screwed up the count, but I have.  You get it right and deal with it.

[tldavis19]

My association teaches to state "ball four" and watch the runner run to first (also gives your partner time to get in to B). That way batter, F2, and you all know it was ball 4. Some guys even follow the batter down the line a little. Everyone's on the same page, play ball!

[Guest]

The only time how far a team traveled should remotely determine your actions is when the game is already in a delay and you are considering banging the game.

[bam]

The only time how far a team traveled should remotely determine your actions is when the game is already in a delay and you are considering banging the game.

Or if on a neutral field - team travelling farther gets the flip. 

[VolUmp]

Hey, I did something similar once ... 9  years ago (gulp!) and I was calling a JV game alone, and I handled it like Ump_24 suggested.

 

In my case, it was a check swing strike three, with R2 stealing 3rd.  I had to somehow say, "yes he went ... batter's out" loud and convincingly while running down the 3rd base line.  FAIL, evidently.

Called the runner safe, next pitch comes in, and I call a strike.  Everyone says, "isn't that three???"

(Only then did I realize I had the same batter in the box.)

 

I explained that I called him out on the prior pitch, and brought the next batter up with a 0-1 count and suffered a very red face.

[Jocko]

The only time how far a team traveled should remotely determine your actions is when the game is already in a delay and you are considering banging the game.

Or if on a neutral field - team travelling farther gets the flip. or if it's game 2 of a DH and the score is 27-1 in the 2nd (true story)

[VAUmp]

How unobservant is the guy to not notice that the same batter was at the plate again?  C'mon Man!