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Last season I was doing a 12U tournament, 2M system and this one coach had been on my partner and I all game. He was nitpicking about every little call.  As we were walking off the field after the game he walked over from talking with his team to tell us "That was horse****" and something along the lines of "you guys are the worst ever". My partner held up his hand and said "enough, we are done here" and we walked away. We reported the coach to the TD. Do you think this was handled correctly? Or should it have been a post game ejection?

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This needed to be handled sooner. Even if he's not doing anything electable a firm "knock it off" should probably eliminate any post game BS

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If you allow chirping to go on in the game, that's your business. But I have thrown out a manager and assistant manager as I was walking off the field. One was a called third strike to end the game, ass coach game out of the box towards me and yelled, "Don't worry Billy, no way that was a strike."  I tossed him, he missed next game.

Other was tournament game and manager felt obligated to say he thought my 3rd inning call of interference and DP was BS. His words. I said I was right and made the correct call. He said Aholes like me shouldn't be calling 11 year old games.  BOOM!!   Bye..  He missed his next Tournament game.(The lost and were sadly elliminated.)

 

Until I leave that field, I am in charge of the conduct on it.

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If you allow chirping to go on in the game, that's your business. But I have thrown out a manager and assistant manager as I was walking off the field. One was a called third strike to end the game, ass coach game out of the box towards me and yelled, "Don't worry Billy, no way that was a strike."  I tossed him, he missed next game.

Other was tournament game and manager felt obligated to say he thought my 3rd inning call of interference and DP was BS. His words. I said I was right and made the correct call. He said Aholes like me shouldn't be calling 11 year old games.  BOOM!!   Bye..  He missed his next Tournament game.(The lost and were sadly elliminated.)

 

Until I leave that field, I am in charge of the conduct on it.

 

"Well A-holes like you shouldn't be coaching either, but I see they still let you."

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In regards to the OP, if you deal with the nitpicking during the game and get them to knock it off then, this postgame situation probably never happens... When it did though, I think you handled it well... It wasn't enough for a postgame EJ, but telling the TD makes any future ejection of the coach less of a surprise, because the TD knows it isn't the first time he's tried to get under an umpire's skin.

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We are all assuming that a post-game EJ is allowed under the rule set followed by this tournament. I believe that you made the right choice to report the situation to the TD. I also would put this jackwagon on a short leash unless he proves otherwise.

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One thing I would do different than the OP is not respond to anything he says post game. If you're don and it's truly over, a simple turn and walk away silently will speak much louder than words.

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How much chirping do you allow? Mostly I get "come on blue" or similar groaning and nothing really offensive/vulgar.

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It depends. If its just a bit of gripping that comes with the game you can let it go. But if it is constant and directed then you need to put a stop to it. Also sniping from the dugout is not allowed.

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How much chirping do you allow? Mostly I get "come on blue" or similar groaning and nothing really offensive/vulgar.

 

 

It really depends.  Typically the higher the level, the less chirping.  Funny how it works sometimes.

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How much chirping do you allow? Mostly I get "come on blue" or similar groaning and nothing really offensive/vulgar.

 

 

It really depends.  Typically the higher the level, the less chirping.  Funny how it works sometimes.

Of course... the higher the level, the less chirping you hear. Its what happens when you understand the consequences. Funny how that works sometimes.

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How much chirping do you allow? Mostly I get "come on blue" or similar groaning and nothing really offensive/vulgar.

 

 

It really depends.  Typically the higher the level, the less chirping.  Funny how it works sometimes.

 

Of course... the higher the level, the less chirping you hear. Its what happens when you understand the consequences. Funny how that works sometimes.

 

 

That's a good point too.  Typically guys who work higher levels take care of business early so there's no chirping later and umpires who came before you are consistent with that and umpires who work after you also appreciate the work you did in your game before their game.  It is a cycle when everybody does his job, things seem to flow more smoothly.

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We are all assuming that a post-game EJ is allowed under the rule set followed by this tournament. I believe that you made the right choice to report the situation to the TD. I also would put this jackwagon on a short leash unless he proves otherwise.

 

 

In my state, post-game ejections are not allowed in HS. We have to file a "Post-game incident report" if anything of this nature occurs. One of my crews was accosted by a losing coach in the 1st round of the state playoffs, with said HC telling the crew chief "You need to F'ing retire", and not in a low mumble, either. Reports filed by CC and his 2nd (a former AA umpire, and Harry's instructor). We were told confidentially that the coach was given a suspension, and the school was fined.

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