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http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=23042581&topic_id=17807232

He was so damn confident too. Oopsie daisy.

San Diego announcer is a d*** about it. I mean, come on, really? Mocking voices? What are we - two years old?

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I just don't get it. Timing and the simple act of asking for the ball was the first thing I learned when I started this job. It has saved me a thousand times over. It's getting really hard to defend the lack of use of replay in the pro game with poor mechanics like this seemingly happening more and more. Luckily, this one ended with the correct call but this is the third incident this year that can't be blamed on "extensive media replay." (Welke straightlined at first, Yankees catch in the stands, and now this). I just wanna see the best at our job in the world using the simple mechanics taught at our local clinics or preached from a lawn chair behind an umpire's trunk.

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Is there anyone on the planet who would be surprisded that Vin Scully would be far more gracious, professional, and informative than the rambling Dick Enberg? At least Enberg managed to get everyone's name right this time.

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Vin Scully should give "announcer clinics"! Great timing. Does not rush. Clear and concise. Impartial. Respectful of the game and the participants, including the umpires. Etc., etc.

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Vin Scully should give "announcer clinics"! Great timing. Does not rush. Clear and concise. Impartial. Respectful of the game and the participants, including the umpires. Etc., etc.

Maybe I'll head over to "Announcer-Empire" to discuss umpiring on this one.

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I just don't get it. Timing and the simple act of asking for the ball was the first thing I learned when I started this job. It has saved me a thousand times over. It's getting really hard to defend the lack of use of replay in the pro game with poor mechanics like this seemingly happening more and more. Luckily, this one ended with the correct call but this is the third incident this year that can't be blamed on "extensive media replay." (Welke straightlined at first, Yankees catch in the stands, and now this). I just wanna see the best at our job in the world using the simple mechanics taught at our local clinics or preached from a lawn chair behind an umpire's trunk.

And yet we've all been there at one point (or we will be at one point) in our careers. It's happened to me. Those that expect perfection because of the size of the stage are going to be sorely disappointed. Those guys are the best in the world, but they're still human.

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I just don't get it. Timing and the simple act of asking for the ball was the first thing I learned when I started this job. It has saved me a thousand times over. It's getting really hard to defend the lack of use of replay in the pro game with poor mechanics like this seemingly happening more and more. Luckily, this one ended with the correct call but this is the third incident this year that can't be blamed on "extensive media replay." (Welke straightlined at first, Yankees catch in the stands, and now this). I just wanna see the best at our job in the world using the simple mechanics taught at our local clinics or preached from a lawn chair behind an umpire's trunk.

And yet we've all been there at one point (or we will be at one point) in our careers. It's happened to me. Those that expect perfection because of the size of the stage are going to be sorely disappointed. Those guys are the best in the world, but they're still human.

But is this not an avoidable mistake? I understand kicking a call. I understand having a rough strikezone. But not knowing where the baseball is is inexcusable at any level. I don't care if it's tee ball or MLB.

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http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=23042581&topic_id=17807232

He was so damn confident too. Oopsie daisy.

San Diego announcer is a d*** about it. I mean, come on, really? Mocking voices? What are we - two years old?

Where is the video??

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I think this is a perfect example of being to close to the play and it blew up. He didn't have time to back off of the play. If he could of been further away he could have seen the catcher miss the ball. Miz, be careful with word choice. As soon as you said "inexcusable" I pretty much could of cared less what you said after that. Other words are horrible, terrible, etc.. When an MLB "misses one" I bet I don't get over 7-8 hours of sleep worrying about it. Don't get me wrong I don't worship them either. Some guys like to get on here and rip the pros a new one. I look at it this way, the only person who was perfect was crucified. Just my humble opinion. :2cents:

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http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=23042581&topic_id=17807232

He was so damn confident too. Oopsie daisy.

San Diego announcer is a d*** about it. I mean, come on, really? Mocking voices? What are we - two years old?

Where is the video??

Is it not appearing for you? The video is there in the OP and quote for me.

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I just don't get it. Timing and the simple act of asking for the ball was the first thing I learned when I started this job. It has saved me a thousand times over. It's getting really hard to defend the lack of use of replay in the pro game with poor mechanics like this seemingly happening more and more. Luckily, this one ended with the correct call but this is the third incident this year that can't be blamed on "extensive media replay." (Welke straightlined at first, Yankees catch in the stands, and now this). I just wanna see the best at our job in the world using the simple mechanics taught at our local clinics or preached from a lawn chair behind an umpire's trunk.

And yet we've all been there at one point (or we will be at one point) in our careers. It's happened to me. Those that expect perfection because of the size of the stage are going to be sorely disappointed. Those guys are the best in the world, but they're still human.

But is this not an avoidable mistake? I understand kicking a call. I understand having a rough strikezone. But not knowing where the baseball is is inexcusable at any level. I don't care if it's tee ball or MLB.

It's avoidable, certainly. Do you understand what I meant when I said that MLB umpires are *human*? It means that even they will make mistakes.

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Fair enough. Inexcusable is a harsh term. But my point (poorly stated obviously) is that the simple act of knowing where the baseball is before making a call should be second nature to an umpire.. I'm not bashing the guys. But it's been a bummer to see a few "avoidable" mistakes leaking into games.

Before posting around here again, I'll make sure to check my syntax. :D

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I like the part where the PU barks something at the runner, after he punches him out. Awesome.

It looked like...

PU: OUT!

R3: Out?!?

PU: YES!

*sees ball at backstop*

PU: oh... SAFE!

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I like the part where the PU barks something at the runner, after he punches him out. Awesome.

You enjoy it way too much when ML umpires make mistakes.

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The call was missed, but one thing we can all learn from this is that he recovered and recovered quickly. I know I've had times when I've missed a call and am too busy kicking myself and my head goes out of the game and here comes miss #2.

I can see how Gibson made the out call at about 42 seconds it looks like he believes the catcher has thew ball, and it even looks like the catcher believes he has the ball. But hes proper timing would have avoided this embarrassing situation.

As for the announcers. This video shows perfectly how much of an art announcing is and what happens when you put amateurs behind the mic.

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I agree completely with UIC, the catcher thought he caught the ball, and as a result he faked out Gibson making him think he had a valid tag. Then if the pitcher had hustled just a little he probably would have gotten the second runner.

So, the play goes like this, the pitcher is paying no attention to a R3 allowing him to try for home. Then he turns and throws home, but high. The catcher thought he caught it, attempted the tag. Then he realized he didn't have the ball and chased it. That's when the PU calls the runner safe. The pitcher then halfway starts home so there is no real play on the second runner. BUT, the story is that the umpire screwed up. Everybody here knows that surprise the biggest enemy of umpires, and at the MLB level they are used to players making plays for the most part. We see players do stupid things all the time, make mistakes regularly so we are more attuned to weird plays, and odd rulings. MLB guys excel at making correct calls on really close and very fast plays. What they suck at are when players make stupid plays or do something that cause little used rules to come into play.

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Fair enough. Inexcusable is a harsh term. But my point (poorly stated obviously) is that the simple act of knowing where the baseball is before making a call should be second nature to an umpire.. I'm not bashing the guys. But it's been a bummer to see a few "avoidable" mistakes leaking into games.

Before posting around here again, I'll make sure to check my syntax. :D

Here's the thing. MLB games, in a lot of ways, call themselves. Players don't often make mistakes and plays get made. It is easy (very easy) to get in the lull of the game. See this play and what happened a few weeks ago as examples.

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I agree completely with UIC, the catcher thought he caught the ball, and as a result he faked out Gibson making him think he had a valid tag. Then if the pitcher had hustled just a little he probably would have gotten the second runner.

So, the play goes like this, the pitcher is paying no attention to a R3 allowing him to try for home. Then he turns and throws home, but high. The catcher thought he caught it, attempted the tag. Then he realized he didn't have the ball and chased it. That's when the PU calls the runner safe. The pitcher then halfway starts home so there is no real play on the second runner. BUT, the story is that the umpire screwed up. Everybody here knows that surprise the biggest enemy of umpires, and at the MLB level they are used to players making plays for the most part. We see players do stupid things all the time, make mistakes regularly so we are more attuned to weird plays, and odd rulings. MLB guys excel at making correct calls on really close and very fast plays. What they suck at are when players make stupid plays or do something that cause little used rules to come into play.

Yeah, this looks like something that would happen in one of the Middle School games I umpire, or LL juniors. Without me screwing the call up of course. :)

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