Bill Welke--Astros vs. Dodgers

[txump81]

Nice positioning and mechanics to end the game.

Nice slide by Bourn also.

Video not up yet.

[Thunderheads]

Nice positioning and mechanics to end the game.

Nice slide by Bourn also.

Video not up yet.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=15123657&topic_id=11493214&c_id=mlb

[txump81]

Thanks Jeff.

I had just grabbed the video and was headed this way.

[Thunderheads]

Thanks Jeff.

I had just grabbed the video and was headed this way.

my pleasure!! You know me...I'm always looking at the highlights, etc.....

By the way ....this IS such a great video to show all good things baseball, ....hit, throw, slide, and the umpire ,.... great shot, view, the point....I love it!!:beerbang

[dumbdumb]

Here is another home plate call where it is the first play from the infield and Larry could not wrap around to the first baseline as far as Welke did or chose not to. I could not tell with the original call but with an armchair slow mo video, it looks like Larry missed.

The great thing about MLB, is we can look at these videos to help with our own positioning during our games. Of course we all make both, correct calls and incorrect calls at all levels, so that is not the point. The point is to use these videos as teaching or learning tools IMHO.

In the old days all the slides were straight in with the feet or they barreled over the catcher, so you could just get in the FBLE position. The hook slide and the head first slide, arms extended did not cause much problem either. The part of the body that was going to touch the plate was right up front. Now days, with those slides where the majority of the legs and hips go behind and do not touch the plate and the player tries to slide that trailing left hand over under or around the catcher, (whatever the terminology for that slide is now called) and the swipe tags, has caused much more problems with positioning. Needing to move and reposition right at the last minute to possibly see what really happened can sometimes be accomplished and sometimes not, no matter how mobile you are. Notice how Charlie chose not to get run on this play. If he was really all fired up and wanted to get run this would have been an excellent play to do it on. Charlie just chose not to get run. He will pick his spot for another day. Charlie getting ejected would not have made Larry any better or worse of an umpire. It is just one of those things that happens or does not happen many times.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=15100229&topic_id=9782246&c_id=mlb

[txump81]

And you can see Bill starts out 3BLE and then slides to his right as the play develops.

[yawetag]

And you can see Bill starts out 3BLE and then slides to his right as the play develops.

He should have started at point-of-plate though. Wouldn't taken as long to slide over.

Also, why did he look back at the runner before calling safe. Seemed odd.

[mazzamouth]

Here is another home plate call where it is the first play from the infield and Larry could not wrap around to the first baseline as far as Welke did or chose not to. I could not tell with the original call but with an armchair slow mo video, it looks like Larry missed.

The great thing about MLB, is we can look at these videos to help with our own positioning during our games. Of course we all make both, correct calls and incorrect calls at all levels, so that is not the point. The point is to use these videos as teaching or learning tools IMHO.

In the old days all the slides were straight in with the feet or they barreled over the catcher, so you could just get in the FBLE position. The hook slide and the head first slide, arms extended did not cause much problem either. The part of the body that was going to touch the plate was right up front. Now days, with those slides where the majority of the legs and hips go behind and do not touch the plate and the player tries to slide that trailing left hand over under or around the catcher, (whatever the terminology for that slide is now called) and the swipe tags, has caused much more problems with positioning. Needing to move and reposition right at the last minute to possibly see what really happened can sometimes be accomplished and sometimes not, no matter how mobile you are. Notice how Charlie chose not to get run on this play. If he was really all fired up and wanted to get run this would have been an excellent play to do it on. Charlie just chose not to get run. He will pick his spot for another day. Charlie getting ejected would not have made Larry any better or worse of an umpire. It is just one of those things that happens or does not happen many times.

http://mlb.mlb.com/v...782246&c_id=mlb

This is a good play too show when a PU can go a little inside fair territory or stay inside the hip pocket of the catcher... he would have gotten a really good look.. although I believe he got the play right.

[Astrosdawg07]

Here is another home plate call where it is the first play from the infield and Larry could not wrap around to the first baseline as far as Welke did or chose not to. I could not tell with the original call but with an armchair slow mo video, it looks like Larry missed.

The great thing about MLB, is we can look at these videos to help with our own positioning during our games. Of course we all make both, correct calls and incorrect calls at all levels, so that is not the point. The point is to use these videos as teaching or learning tools IMHO.

In the old days all the slides were straight in with the feet or they barreled over the catcher, so you could just get in the FBLE position. The hook slide and the head first slide, arms extended did not cause much problem either. The part of the body that was going to touch the plate was right up front. Now days, with those slides where the majority of the legs and hips go behind and do not touch the plate and the player tries to slide that trailing left hand over under or around the catcher, (whatever the terminology for that slide is now called) and the swipe tags, has caused much more problems with positioning. Needing to move and reposition right at the last minute to possibly see what really happened can sometimes be accomplished and sometimes not, no matter how mobile you are. Notice how Charlie chose not to get run on this play. If he was really all fired up and wanted to get run this would have been an excellent play to do it on. Charlie just chose not to get run. He will pick his spot for another day. Charlie getting ejected would not have made Larry any better or worse of an umpire. It is just one of those things that happens or does not happen many times.

http://mlb.mlb.com/v...782246&c_id=mlb

This is a good play too show when a PU can go a little inside fair territory or stay inside the hip pocket of the catcher... he would have gotten a really good look.. although I believe he got the play right.

I believe he got the call correct as well. Possibly not only tagging on the back but also the back of the helmet before the hand got on the plate.

[Mr Umpire]

While I think he got the call correct, did he actually see it? That is one which we will never know the answer to. Maybe he did, hard to tell from that poor camera angle. I couldn't even tell if Ruiz touched HP from it. He would have gotten a better look a little more toward 1B (3BLX) but the call was correct nonetheless.