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I don't do LL games but is there a rule stating no warm-ups for pitchers pre-game? Seems a little excessive for the umpires to take this stance for 9u. Again, not knowing the rules, I don't think I would have done this. MHO.

Hardly ever. Instead of actually picking up a rules book and reading it, I believe some of their "knowledge" comes from watching MLB games and listening to the awful announcers as stated by Lindsay all too often. And what's even better is that they don't know there's a difference between LL, HS, college, pro, etc.

Is that a windscreen wrapping the "chain-link" fence? If so, that would explain why you still can see a little part of the ball that's circled. If THAT'S the case, HR. Also, not knowing this field and going by just what I see in the video, that's what I have.

I was taught this way and use it all the time. HS varsity vs two good teams. R1, ground ball to F4. I'm in B and give the "safe" sign and "That's nothing". F4 fields the ball, throws the runner out at 1B for the third out. Third base dugout HC calmly and casually comes out and asked if I had any interference there. I asked him, "Didn't you see me "safe" the play before he threw"? He said "Yes, but didn't know what that meant." The thing is, he DOES know. He's one of the rare coaches who does know rules and mechanics, he was just being a douche. He then says "Oh, ok, when you make the safe sign then you have nothing on a play like that, ok, got it." and walks away.

So, after reading this ENTIRE thread, I think I finally understand. If it's ball four you're out so take your base. If it's a fair batted ball you might be safe provided it's a Tuesday night game with one bank of lights out. Got it! Seriously, I do appreciate all the comments.

My thoughts exactly. Take numbers if they're outside the dugout and dump them all. Probably not enough players to finish the game for either team. If not, we're done.

Just to clarify....OBR, Definition of Terms...

Oh, absolutely but you know how coaches love to teach "If you ain't cheat'n, you ain't try'n."

Back in my playing days, when leading off vs RH pitchers, we were trained to watch the pitchers pivot leg from the knee down since he couldn't come over without picking it up off the plate. That little knee buckle would tip us off to take off. I do watch for that in higher level games. Just my two cents.

I'm working a 12U tournament a few weeks ago. R1, 0 outs, base hit to RF and R1 is heading to third. The throw from RF sails over the 3B's head, over the fence out of play. I signal the runner to score and the HC comes out of the dugout and says "Wait a minute blue, HE SCORES?? I don't think that's right, I think he stays at third", and he's dead serious. I look at him like what, you're kidding. I did tell him, "Joe, your player threw the ball out of the park but if you want to look that one up on your phone in the dugout, we'll get the game going again and if you find anything please let me know.

I totally agree, yet for the majority of us, the abuse will continue...

We were at the Cards/Rays game last night and I noticed Angel Hernandez in this position with a runner on first. Ok, I know he's a MLB umpire but that doesn't mean I can't ask. Seriously, I'm just wondering if this is what being taught? It just looks awkward.

I'm in agreement with you S.E.D. I would think just hammering an out might bring out a coach to say "You didn't see him miss my player, can you get help?" We were taught to say "I have a tag on the (wherever), HE'S OUT! You're telling everyone what you saw exactly. Same as a throw to first that pulls the 1B off the bag only to get it back on before the runner. "I have a foot on the bag, HE'S OUT! Takes all the guess work out and let's everyone know what you saw. Just my two cents.

It took me a few years when I started officiating to not listen to the comments. I had some great mentors and the one I still hear in my head to this day....(pick your call)....It's still a strike....or....He's still out. Just do the best you can. Nobody on the field is a professional and 9.9/10 won't be.

I read through our playoff addendum and it only mentioned the quantity of uniformed players allowed.

They had seven total (which included the HC), all in uniform. It was a rival District championship game. Our three-man crew had both of these teams throughout the year vs each other and separately. Of course it was no big deal during the regular season but NOW it was an issue. We were kind of surprised at the question since the players, coaches and us all know one another very well.

NFHS varsity. I was looking for a rule which states how many coaches are allowed in a dugout, provided they are in full team uniform. Reading through Rule 3-2, I could not find any mention of how many are allowed. Thanks for any help.

HS Varsity yesterday... R1, 1 out. Typical 4-6-3 DP with the runner sliding legally into 2B. The DP is turned flawlessly however (you knew there would be one or I wouldn't be typing), as the runner is sliding into 2B he yells "HA!" at the SS. It didn't bother the SS as his throw was perfect to 1B. I banged the runner out at 2B, pointed and yelled "That's interference" and then subsequently got the out at first, interference ignored. I did tell the offending runner don't ever do that again.

Well, you're a lot nicer than I would have been. We all have teams in our areas that are exactly like that and coaches who react just like he did. I would have just said "Nope, never touched it, 0-2". And then give him my best Cowboy Joe brush-off (just kidding of course). After the "Can you get help" comment I just say "Mike (or whoever), I don't need help on that one."

Most scoreboard operators at the HS level and especially below, do not keep up with the game and often have the wrong count. When I'm working HS games I'll explain this at my plate meeting and if there's a question of the count please just ask me. I'm a huge proponent of making sure everyone knows what the count is at certain intervals, as this is how I was trained many moons ago. My two cents. Good luck to you on your project!

I would like to thank Laz Diaz for taking time to speak with our organization this past Saturday. He brought great insight and fantastic stories from his 24 years as an MLB umpire. He answered any and all questions we threw at him which were quite humorous at times.

No runners on, I'm calling him back. With runners on base, I'll let the runners go. How do you know they didn't have some type of play on? I have no problem calling the BR back if someone questions the count but the other runners will stay put, or in this situation, score. I agree that the catcher should know the situation.

Why would suddenly veering into foul territory make this any less interference than suddenly veering into fair territory which is exactly what he did? R3 knew exactly what he was doing and was hoping for an outcome exactly what happened. Back in my playing days I have done this same thing. Believe me, I know umpires have plenty to look for but I would think with the game on the line he (HP Umpire) should kind of have his radar up as soon as that ball was hit. Seriously, just my two cents.

Bet you waited a long time to fit THAT word in somewhere?. Nicely done. 😀