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Thanks. Its huge to have a league president that has a zero tolerance mindset. In a preseason meeting he laid out expectations, the process to voice your complaints, and punishment if you get out of line. When the umpire mistakes are made, I can teach and correct the error one on one with limited hostility on the field. So far the last few years have been good and in a time that its hard to find umpires, we had a 90% return rate for the second year.

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From the 2021 Minor League Baseball Umpire Manual (section 5.42, p. 70): referencing rules 5.09(b)(5), 5.09(b)(12), 5.09(c)(2) If two runners arrive at home plate about the same time and the first runner misses home plate but the second runner legally touches the plate, the first runner may not return to retouch home plate and may be put out on appeal. If the appeal on the runner is sustained for the third out of the inning, neither run scores. [See Official Baseball Rule 5.09(c)(2) Approved Ruling (A).] If home plate is missed during a time play, the umpire should immediately rule on the time play even if the runner misses the plate. The defense is required to recognize that the plate has been missed. If the defense properly appeals, the umpire should then reverse his prior decision and cancel the run. Even if the runner has returned to touch the plate prior to the appeal, the defense’s appeal is sustained because no run may score after the third out is made. 2021 OBR 5.09(c)(2) APPROVED RULING: (A) No runner may return to touch a missed base after a following runner has scored. Rule 5.09(c) Comment: If two runners arrive at home base about the same time and the first runner misses home plate but a second runner legally touches the plate, the runner is tagged out on his attempt to come back and touch the base or is called out, on appeal, then he shall be considered as having been put out before the second runner scored and being the third out. Second runner’s run shall not count, as provided in Rule 5.09(d). 5.09(d) Effect of Preceding Runner’s Failure to Touch a Base Unless two are out, the status of a following runner is not affected by a preceding runner’s failure to touch or retouch a base. If, upon appeal, the preceding runner is the third out, no runners following him shall score. If such third out is the result of a force play, neither preceding nor following runners shall score.

No, it's not passing. Both runs score unless / until the defense appeals the first runner missing the plate, in which case neither run scores. And, once the trailing runner touches the plate, the first runner can't (well, he can, but doing so does not count, and he is still subject to appeal).

Thank you for the well wishes. In 2007 I had a complete rupture of C5 and C6. My neurologist repaired both with a fabric stay in place cast if you will, and the voids grew back 100%. Several years later arthritis attacked and had to have a second surgery to clean it all out. 3 years ago due to high pain, I umped just a few games a year while taking over as umpire trainer, manager, and league assistant. basicly I train and control our umps and the league president and i observe all games and keep knuckleheaded coaches under control and off our umps. Any complaints are addressed with us not the umps. Now arthritis has caused major disc degeneration from C2 all the way to C7. I am having another surgery around thanksgiving to fuse C4,C5,C6 together with steel plates. There is a very real possibility that come next spring that he will have to go in and place a steel rod in the back of my neck from C2 thru C7. I am not currently ok with this. I have asked my doctor to find a way to allow me to still go play golf and not to have severely limited movement. Just sold my motorcycle as well, the riding days are over as well.

In my OPINION, and again I’ll reiterate this should never happen bc it means you’re playing in mud, but I would defer to the rule about umpire may rule on anything not covered in rule book, and at most, award one base. No way they get a double on a ball 12” from the plate bc it sank in mud. As you said, lodged balls usually refer to equipment or boundary markers (padding, fence, shrubs, tarp) I would argue a “lodged” ball in the mud in front of home would fall under the umpire making a judgment, and 2 bases would not be sound judgment.

No, there's only one way, but you'd be surprised at how many people don't know that ONE way

I don't think that's correct, Spot-built (Yeah, remember them?) was making plate shoes by the mid 70's for sure and I think that predate +POS, but I'm not positive. I think I may still have mine. I will post a picture if I can find them.