Chris Segal Long Sleeves in heat

[Marcus6]

Noticed Segal working the plate in 95 degree temps in Cleveland on July 1 wearing this long sleeve dark navy compression shirt. There’s a logo on the right sleeve - any idea what brand this is? Would have to think this is to protect his skin but curious if anybody knows why one would wear this in stifling heat.

[MadMax]

1 hour ago, Marcus6 said:

There’s a logo on the left sleeve - any idea what brand this is?

They’re very likely Bruce Bolts. Bruce Bolt Compression Sleeves

Where was Segal working? Cleveland? Navy is in their color palette, and the Clubhouse Manager has these on-hand. Segal opted for these instead of wearing a long-sleeve umpire shirt (which don’t breathe as well as ya think). 

1 hour ago, Marcus6 said:

Would have to think this is to protect his skin but curious if anybody knows why one would wear this in stifling heat.

As you say, simply to protect his skin and promote cooling. Skin that is already getting roasted by the sun’s rays, or is slathered with sunblock, is stunted in its ability to transport heat via sweat to the surface and then allow it to evaporate. Besides that, who’s the only umpire to handle baseballs? Plate umpire – Segal likely doesn’t want to slather his arms with sunblock and have it flow down his arms to his hands – and the baseballs – if he can help it. 

On a related, but much more sarcastic, sartorial note: 

“That’s (the wearing of long sleeves under a short-sleeve umpire shirt) a bad look!!! No choice / optimum / playoff assignments for you!” – Any of Several Assigners / Evaluators in Amateur (including college!) Baseball Anywhere in North America

I always make a point of this – famously, Gerry Davis was working plate at Wrigley Field, on a 95°+ day, with easily 95% humidity, in sky blue, with a blaze orange cooling towel draped over his neck while calling Bs & Ks!! Every half inning, he’d escape to the tunnel to get refreshed and cooled off, while Will Little administered the official lineup cards from U1. 
Bright Orange towel. On national television. Is that the “professional look” we fawn and obsess over???

#NoOneReallyCares #TheyDoInMLBWhyCan’tWe?

[dumbdumb]

6 hours ago, MadMax said:

They’re very likely Bruce Bolts. Bruce Bolt Compression Sleeves

Where was Segal working? Cleveland? Navy is in their color palette, and the Clubhouse Manager has these on-hand. Segal opted for these instead of wearing a long-sleeve umpire shirt (which don’t breathe as well as ya think). 

As you say, simply to protect his skin and promote cooling. Skin that is already getting roasted by the sun’s rays, or is slathered with sunblock, is stunted in its ability to transport heat via sweat to the surface and then allow it to evaporate. Besides that, who’s the only umpire to handle baseballs? Plate umpire – Segal likely doesn’t want to slather his arms with sunblock and have it flow down his arms to his hands – and the baseballs – if he can help it. 

On a related, but much more sarcastic, sartorial note: 

“That’s (the wearing of long sleeves under a short-sleeve umpire shirt) a bad look!!! No choice / optimum / playoff assignments for you!” – Any of Several Assigners / Evaluators in Amateur (including college!) Baseball Anywhere in North America

I always make a point of this – famously, Gerry Davis was working plate at Wrigley Field, on a 95°+ day, with easily 95% humidity, in sky blue, with a blaze orange cooling towel draped over his neck while calling Bs & Ks!! Every half inning, he’d escape to the tunnel to get refreshed and cooled off, while Will Little administered the official lineup cards from U1. 
Bright Orange towel. On national television. Is that the “professional look” we fawn and obsess over???

#NoOneReallyCares #TheyDoInMLBWhyCan’tWe?

did that towel get dipped in a bucket of ice water with ammonia salts in the dugout in between innings??

[JonnyCat]

To me, wearing those sleeves is just plain smart. I don't care what anyone would say if I wore something like this (and I do). I protect my skin from the sun ALL the time, not just when I'm umpiring.

People think it's a bad look? F*#K off! I'd rather try and avoid skin cancer. 

[MadMax]

4 hours ago, JonnyCat said:

People think it's a bad look?

But but BUT, Jonny... It's not just any-ol' "people". To my hashtag, No One Really Cares. 

Instead, it's Assigners – those who hold all the control and governance over "their" umpires in so far as which games they work, how often (or how rarely), where, and who with... and "Evaluators" – those designated or self-deigned "experts" who impose an arbitrary, ambiguous, inconsistent, and oft-contextually irrelevant "Scale of Value". This is done under the banner of "improving (the) umpires" (whom they evaluate), but more realistically, the feedback they give is vapid, self-serving, and occasionally simply justifies the evaluator's role (or the lecherous fee they might charge). 

Bottom line – Do (or Wear) What You Need to Do to Do Your Job, "Evaluations" Be D@mn3d. 

[jimurrayalterego]

5 hours ago, MadMax said:

But but BUT, Jonny... It's not just any-ol' "people". To my hashtag, No One Really Cares. 

Instead, it's Assigners – those who hold all the control and governance over "their" umpires in so far as which games they work, how often (or how rarely), where, and who with... and "Evaluators" – those designated or self-deigned "experts" who impose an arbitrary, ambiguous, inconsistent, and oft-contextually irrelevant "Scale of Value". This is done under the banner of "improving (the) umpires" (whom they evaluate), but more realistically, the feedback they give is vapid, self-serving, and occasionally simply justifies the evaluator's role (or the lecherous fee they might charge). 

Bottom line – Do (or Wear) What You Need to Do to Do Your Job, "Evaluations" Be D@mn3d. 

We've had some threads before about "long sleeves under short sleeves". It used to be anathema. At upper levels I still espouse no long sleeves under short sleeves for cold weather. Use a long sleeve shirt for the plate and jacket on the base (current fashion being an untucked jacket). For our young impoverished HS umps we don't care what they use to keep warm. But any long sleeve shirt available now is not built for warm weather and probably would not look good if designed to wick and protect the arms. I believe I have posted before about the proper color that an assignor would like such as skin tone like beige but the best solution was posted if I recall by @MadMax which was the various recent MLB sidepanel shirts with a side panel color matching long sleeve. Whose assignor would not allow that?

[MadMax]

41 minutes ago, jimurrayalterego said:

At upper levels I still espouse no long sleeves under short sleeves for cold weather.

Again, contextual. I still espouse – to use your applicable term – no jackets on plates. Am I going to demerit or denigrate a colleague or a trainee for using one? No. I might scoop on some sarcasm, primarily to a colleague – especially one who subscribes to my way of thinking on most other umpiring ‘thangs’. Heck, I’ll peibably buy / supply a long-sleeve umpire shirt for him!! 
… especially if it gets me out of a sub-optimal plate on a bleary, dreary day. 

49 minutes ago, jimurrayalterego said:

about the proper color that an assignor would like… 

What does this matter?? Better, why does this matter??! Shouldn’t competency, integrity, and dependability matter a helluva lot more than sartorial choice??!! 
And if that sartorial choice, that “professional appearance” is so f#€ꓘing important, then why isn’t that assigner supplying the uniform items to his charges (umpires)??? 

58 minutes ago, jimurrayalterego said:

but the best solution was posted if I recall by @MadMax which was the various recent MLB sidepanel shirts with a side panel color matching long sleeve.

I posted about them, but they’re not “mine”. They’re actually available via ThighPro ( @concertman1971 ). And, two of the three models have EVA foam padding in them to protect the forearms, because there are some colleagues of ours who endure despite bruising being hazardous to their health. 

1 hour ago, jimurrayalterego said:

Whose assignor would not allow that?

The emasculating assigner that labels those guys 🐈 for wearing sleeves, or taking other protective measures.