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FED Game.  R2, R3, Bottom of 7, Score tied 5-5, no outs.

B3 hits a fair bounding ball that goes over the fence.

 

Three Questions:

1)  What's the final score?

2)  Is it the same in all 3 rules sets?

3)  What do we properly call (in each rules set) this "double?"

 

I swear the FED Rules Book and Case Book are remiss for not clarifying the ruling to the first question.

If you're one who says, "Don't worry about the score," then please don't chime in.  I'm not worried.  I'm annoyed.

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Ive got the score of 6-5 with the BR recieving a single.

A HR is the only one that can be scored as what it is. All others are dependent on where the winning run was located when the BR hit the ball.

So a R3 or R2 alone would probably score on, at a minimum, on a single. An R1 only would probably need a double to score. Maybe the BR tries to get to second to draw a throw there and let the run score.

This is only thinking off the top of my head and maybe qualifying for MSU university.

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1 hour ago, HumblePie said:

I swear the FED Rules Book and Case Book are remiss for not clarifying the ruling to the first question.

If you're one who says, "Don't worry about the score," then please don't chime in.  I'm not worried.  I'm annoyed.

First, let's start with this fact:  Number of pages of scoring rules in MLB:  40. 

Number of pages of scoring rules in the NCAA: 10 1/2. Number of pages of scoring rules in the NFHS: 7.  Both MLB and the NCAA allude to the fact that with the exception of an out-of-the-park home run, the game ends with a safe hit that drives in as are necessary to put his team in the lead.  So, to answer your questions:  1) H6 V5; 2) No because the NFHS does not address this situation. 3) In MLB & NCAA, the batter would only be credited with a base-hit.  

 

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OK.  I think it was clear, that I described a ball that bounded fair over the fence.

So, there is no question that the batter gets 2nd and credited with a .....

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On 2/1/2026 at 2:22 PM, HumblePie said:

So, there is no question that the batter gets 2nd and credited with a .....

Has to be a double:

9-4-ART. 3 ... A base hit for extra bases is credited to the batter when it is the sole

reason for the batter's safe arrival at second (double), third (triple) or home base

(home run).

 

CORRECTION: It's 9-3-3

Edited by Velho
Correct typo on rule cite
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1 hour ago, Velho said:

Has to be a double:

9-4-ART. 3 ... A base hit for extra bases is credited to the batter when it is the sole

reason for the batter's safe arrival at second (double), third (triple) or home base

(home run).

Is it a ground rule double? 

Book rule double? 

Automatic double? 

This is largely semantics, but there is a reason I'm asking.

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6 minutes ago, HumblePie said:

Is it a ground rule double? 

Book rule double? 

Automatic double? 

This is largely semantics, but there is a reason I'm asking.

We call it a ground rule double but it's really a book rule, called "automatic" in the OBR scorekeeping rules, and this thread will enlighten you:

 

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