Appeal at 1st when you're in position C on a flyball towards left-center (2-man)

[The Man in Blue]

At risk of muddying the waters . . . if your org is not fully using LL mechanics and you are looking for things to study, take a look at softball mechanics.  You should be able to find USA Softball's on their website (I believe; it's been a hot minute since I looked).  They use 60-foot bases, so I think you'll find them useful.  (It sounds as if "small field" mechanics are essentially softball mechanics.  Never worked baseball at 60-ft, though.)

[orangebird]

I actually just learnt I can access official Little League training material without passing any sort of test with them and lo and behold they have an hour-long video on 2-man for 60-foot diamonds so I'll def make note of what's covered there 

https://www.littleleagueumpire.org/Videos/Watch/17

[Jay R.]

On 3/16/2025 at 10:32 AM, orangebird said:

Could you or anyone else provide any official documents/videos/etc for that? Obviously believe y'all, just would like to see directly to see if there's any other gaps between our training and the official LL guidance for 60-foot diamonds

 

Seems to be produced by LL District 8 in CA, rather than the home office, but echoes what's been said here. Page 90 has what you're looking for. 

https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/63ddc50d014ddc83905ba29e/6428a7a762519371804a5d4b_60 FT - 2 Umpire Mechanics (4-1-2023).pdf

[Jay R.]

Perhaps also of use, depending on what was used at your trainings: Little League's Rules Instruction Manual. This is the 2023 edition; @Velho or @stevis might be able to let us know if there are any significant changes to their interpretations since then.

http://www.orwua.com/2023-Rules-Instruction-Manual-rev20230221.pdf

[orangebird]

12 minutes ago, Jay R. said:

Seems to be produced by LL District 8 in CA, rather than the home office, but echoes what's been said here. Page 90 has what you're looking for. 

https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/63ddc50d014ddc83905ba29e/6428a7a762519371804a5d4b_60 FT - 2 Umpire Mechanics (4-1-2023).pdf

This definitely felt reassuring to see official guidance admit it's a tricky spot regardless of who actually should be making the catch/no catch call, thank you

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If the fly ball results in a difficult (e.g., diving) catch to right field or involves a fair/foul decision down the right field line, the PU must stay with the ball and will not be able to determine exactly when the runner retouches in relation to when the ball is first touched by the fielder. In these situations, once the fielder has completed the catch, the PU should glance at R3 to determine how far the runner is off 3B. If the runner is still somewhat close to 3B, the PU should assume that the runner retouched correctly. If the runner is half-way home when the PU glances, the PU should assume that runner did not retouch correctly. The inability to see the retouch and catch simultaneously is one of the limitations of the 2-umpire system.

[Jay R.]

6 minutes ago, orangebird said:

This definitely felt reassuring to see official guidance admit it's a tricky spot regardless of who actually should be making the catch/no catch call, thank you

It is that.

I will also say that, when I was working LL, it was one of the few things that I deviated from (always pregaming with my partner of course). 

[Velho]

46 minutes ago, Jay R. said:

Perhaps also of use, depending on what was used at your trainings: Little League's Rules Instruction Manual. This is the 2023 edition; @Velho or @stevis might be able to let us know if there are any significant changes to their interpretations since then.

That's the RIM I still use. Some tournament rule and other stuff (jewelry, arm sleeves) have changed but nothing gamewise that I can think of.