MadMax Posted November 10 Report Posted November 10 … and one that we professional (lowercase) and pay-per-game umpires must be very aware and careful of when referencing. Know your context. Who here would be calling R2 Out for Abandonment? Who here would be calling F6 for OBS? Who here would score R3 (if there was one), because F5 made a coy game of tagging R2 instead of touching 3B? Who here calls R2 safe at 3B, just to prove a point to F5 that shenanigans have no place in “my (the umpire’s) game, or on my field”? Who here would be extolling or chastising F5 about making “my” (this) game a mockery? Who here would get the crew together to discuss the “temperature of the game”, and the possibility of needing to issue bench warnings to suppress any further or escalating tensions? Quote
MadMax Posted November 10 Author Report Posted November 10 Have some fun with some more of these: There’s at least two of these that I’ve been proxy to a fellow umpire calling OBS on (reported to by crewmate who is a Vulture colleague). Quote
dumbdumb Posted November 10 Report Posted November 10 mm6--this is a loaded question just like how many runs and what inning the opposing team says that you should no longer steal a base. one manager says 5th inning and 6 runs, another manager says 5th inning 5 runs or you are breaking the code. others would say 6th inning 5 runs or 6th inning 7 runs, whatever. so it always depends on that managers interpretation of showing up their team or showing up the game itself. sometimes the inning matters if it is Roger Clemens on the mound throwing a no-hitter on the mound by the 5th inning and you know (how do you know that) he is going to be unhittable all day with the stuff he is showing/throwing that day, versus John Doe with a 12 era for the year. depends on if it is John Magraw as the manager vs Connie Mack, versus Whitey Herzog vs Sparky Anderson vs John McClaren vs Lou Pinella vs Lee Elia vs Don Mattingly vs John Gibbons vs Terry Francona. They will not all agree many times on pretty much anything. (or when do you go to One BAAT (One Base At A Time) with a big lead, or when are you throwing at someone and when are you not. sometimes you got to use that Gibbs gut or intuition or is it psychology or common sense or whatever. and sometimes everyone's common sense is different and what matters is the person that is holding the ding card, for your performance that you have to read their mind. and it can be the difference maybe (you guys would know) of don't let the door hit you on the way out for the end of the season evaluation or we are going to get you in the big 5 conferences next year in d1 or the show. But, this was one of those LOL moments that usually happens between home and first and backing up towards home. enjoy the moment and the laugh, but to each their own. now throwing that potayto or is it potahto ball may be another story. Quote
The Man in Blue Posted November 11 Report Posted November 11 11 hours ago, MadMax said: Who here would be calling R2 Out for Abandonment? Who here would be calling F6 for OBS? Who here would score R3 (if there was one), because F5 made a coy game of tagging R2 instead of touching 3B? Who here calls R2 safe at 3B, just to prove a point to F5 that shenanigans have no place in “my (the umpire’s) game, or on my field”? Who here would be extolling or chastising F5 about making “my” (this) game a mockery? Who here would get the crew together to discuss the “temperature of the game”, and the possibility of needing to issue bench warnings to suppress any further or escalating tensions? Are you high? It must be good stuff. Still a (presumable) force. You must be high. Are you an @$$#0!3? You are an @$$#0!e! Finally, one I can answer seriously! Not from what I saw. After the play, it appeared F5 helped the runner up, showing it was all in good humor. Good stuff, Max! I did have a stalemate at the end of a 14u softball game with the tying run between third and home and the catcher with the ball. Time had expired and the batter cranked one (no idea why the outfield was playing in). The batter was coming into third while the ball was headed to the plate. The 3BC told the runner "You can't stop, you have to score!" so she rounded and kept going until she saw the catcher with the ball. The DHC was yelling "Do NOT throw it and do not go after her!" as he was afraid the runner would get by some how. The OHC was yelling "Do NOT go back to third!" We played cat and mouse because the catcher kept drifting up the line, the coach would yell, and then she would come back. This lasted about 4 minutes with my BU on third for any play coming back, and me in position for any play coming forward. When both players just stopped and stared at each other, the OHC yelled at us, "What now?!" I finally said loudly, "If there isn't any play being made, we are going to call TIME." The runner was hoping that distracted the catcher enough that she could slip by. She didn't. To your point, it is entirely different, but being able to read the context is not. Sure, those guys all know one another and play against one another for days on end, multiple times a year, over multiple years of their lives, FOR PAY. However, we have all had those games with kids that have played against (or with!) one another for a few years and know one another. We just have to be "attuned to the temperature" and know when something is in good humor and when something is designed to garner a response. One thing I loved about my daughters playing travel softball and volleyball was that they got to know so many other players, people, and officials than they would have only playing for our school. 2 Quote
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