Forced to leave 1B ?

[RBIbaseball]

There was a play a few days ago between Blue Jays and Reds

R1, pop up to F3 . F3 sees that BR is not running down the line. F3 let's popup fall to the ground, then tosses it to 1B

 

R1 was standing on 1B until the ball hit he ground, then took off for second. Result of the play was a force out at 1B, retiring the BR and a throw down to 2B to tag R1 for a double play

 

Anyways , I would like the verify the following two scenarios:

 

If R1 stayed on the base and never moved and

A. the fielder covering 1B caught the ball with his foot on the base, then tagged R1 , then BR would be out via force and R1 safe because he would be no longer forced to advance .. correct?

B. The fielder disengaged 1B prior to the catch, tagged R1 standing on 1B, then touched 1B. This time R1 would be out because he is forced to advance to 2B and not protected by standing on first, correct? 

Or is he protected 

[noumpere]

A and B are correct.

[Senor Azul]

Mr. Rbibaseball, Close Call Sports did an analysis of this play including the rules involved. You can find it in the Close Call Sports/Umpire Ejection Fantasy League forum.

The title of the article is "Vlad Guerrero's Smart Play."

[RBIbaseball]

Thanks team

[Vegas_Ump]

These plays happen because the BR lollygags to first, and there is plenty off time to run a double play!  Hustle would nullify that opportunity.

Mike

Las Vegas

[Velho]

18 minutes ago, Vegas_Ump said:

lollygags