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Bases are loaded with no outs when B1 grounds sharply to second. F4 fields the ball, pivots and fires to the shortstop who’s touching the bag and just off the left field side of second base (behind the base). R1 overslides the bag and unintentionally makes contact with F6. R2 and R3 safely advance.

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5 minutes ago, Guest Ump33 said:

Bases are loaded with no outs when B1 grounds sharply to second. F4 fields the ball, pivots and fires to the shortstop who’s touching the bag and just off the left field side of second base (behind the base). R1 overslides the bag and unintentionally makes contact with F6. R2 and R3 safely advance.

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I am assuming the slide is otherwise legal and you are only asking about a runner going beyond the base and making contact with the fielder.

Depends on the rules code.

FED:  Call out BR and return R2 and R3.

NCAA:  Legal (they have the FPSR, but sliding through the bag in a straight line is legal)

OBR:  Legal

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Under most youth rules (LL and NFHS) we'll also be looking for malicious contact, which is umpire judgement and carries an immediate ejection.

~Dawg

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11 minutes ago, Kevin_K said:

 

 

 

I disagree with @noumpere's suggestion that the slide is legal under NCAA rules. The OP indicates F6 is on the left field side of 2B. FPSR protects the infielder in such a location.

ncaa-fpsr.png

 

 

The left-field side of second base is at the top of this diagram.

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2 hours ago, Matt said:

Oh?

I am assuming that the slide is otherwise a "bona fide slide" (or whatever the specific rule book wording is).

 

I am also willing to admit that I might be wrong.

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1 hour ago, noumpere said:

I am assuming that the slide is otherwise a "bona fide slide" (or whatever the specific rule book wording is).

 

I am also willing to admit that I might be wrong.

By that very definition of bona fide, a runner cannot overslide.

Heh...that rhymes.

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9 hours ago, Matt said:

By that very definition of bona fide, a runner cannot overslide.

Heh...that rhymes.

This is the wording:

(3) is able and attempts to remain on the base (except home
plate) after completion of the slide; and

 

So if R1's hands remain on the bag, and the feet go beyond and make contact, is it legal?  (Serious question)

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10 hours ago, noumpere said:

I am assuming that the slide is otherwise a "bona fide slide" (or whatever the specific rule book wording is).

 

I am also willing to admit that I might be wrong.

Bona Fide Dapper Dan Man right here!

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3 hours ago, noumpere said:

This is the wording:

(3) is able and attempts to remain on the base (except home
plate) after completion of the slide; and

 

So if R1's hands remain on the bag, and the feet go beyond and make contact, is it legal?  (Serious question)

That is correct. 

Thus, we have: any contact beyond the base being illegal in FED, any contact beyond the base being legal in NCAA, and contact beyond the base being legal as long as the runner stays on the base in OBR.

For me, "overslide" means completely passing the bag. 

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2 hours ago, Guest Ump33 said:

Bases are loaded with no outs when B1 grounds sharply to second. F4 fields the ball, pivots and fires to the shortstop who’s touching the bag and just off the left field side of second base (behind the base). R1 overslides the bag and unintentionally makes contact with F6. R2 and R3 safely advance.

As the umpire, you will...

 

2 hours ago, noumpere said:

I am assuming the slide is otherwise legal and you are only asking about a runner going beyond the base and making contact with the fielder.

Depends on the rules code.

FED:  Call out BR and return R2 and R3.

NCAA:  Legal (they have the FPSR, but sliding through the bag in a straight line is legal)

OBR:  Legal

I disagree with @noumpere's suggestion that the slide is legal under NCAA rules. The OP indicates F6 is on the left field side of 2B. FPSR protects the infielder in such a location.

ncaa-fpsr.png

 

 


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