What would you do

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I was watching a game R3  1 out batter hits a screamer down 3rd base line and it hits runner.  PU yells foul.  I was not in a spot to see if it was or not.  Defensive coach comes out and says it hit runner in fair territory.  Gets together with his partner and they rule R3 out runner gets first.  I always thought no matter how bad it is ball is foul once ruled and you eat it if it is a mistake.

[Rich Ives]

What level game was it that had R3 in fair territory?  Even in LL with no leads we try to teach them to keep most of their body foul.

 

In FED it's once foul always foul.  In OBR it can be changed especially if no one reacted adversely to the foul call.

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it was travel not sure of age but I believe they are using fed

[CricketChapman]

Considering the ball was dead the moment it hit the runner (fair or foul), I struggle to see why this couldn't be overturned, even in FED. No defensive player was adversely affected by the foul call.

[Rich Ives]

Considering the ball was dead the moment it hit the runner (fair or foul), I struggle to see why this couldn't be overturned, even in FED. No defensive player was adversely affected by the foul call.

 

Because FED says once foul always foul.

[grayhawk]

 

Considering the ball was dead the moment it hit the runner (fair or foul), I struggle to see why this couldn't be overturned, even in FED. No defensive player was adversely affected by the foul call.

 

Because FED says once foul always foul.

 

 

Not always true.  A ball that has not yet touched the ground can still be caught even if the umpire mistakenly called foul.  The ball is alive and in play.

 

How in the world can BU, who should be in the C position with R3 only, have information that PU could use to change this call?  Was this a 3 or 4 man game where an umpire was in the D position?

[StrikeDavis]

I imagine the conversation between PU and BU involved PU telling BU that he kicked the call and spelling out how he wanted to fix it... or BU was standing in D.  It's unfortunate that FED doesn't allow this to be rectified since the fix is what the umpires ultimately did.   

[Rich Ives]

 

 

Considering the ball was dead the moment it hit the runner (fair or foul), I struggle to see why this couldn't be overturned, even in FED. No defensive player was adversely affected by the foul call.

 

Because FED says once foul always foul.

 

 

Not always true.  A ball that has not yet touched the ground can still be caught even if the umpire mistakenly called foul.  The ball is alive and in play.

 

 

 

 

That doesn't make it a fair ball.  Besides, the ball was dead as soon as it hit the runner.

[noumpere]

FED has a case where a home run is called "foul."  The ruling allows it to be fixed.  I'd apply the same in the OP.

 

SITUATION 4: With the bases empty, the batter hits a long fly ball down the left-field line that easily goes over the outfield fence. With the sun in his eyes, the plate umpire initially declares “Foul Ball,†but then realizes he made a mistake, that the ball did indeed go over the fence in flight in fair territory. RULING: The umpire may reverse his call and declare a home run. The ball is dead because it left the field by going over the fence in flight, not because the umpire declared, “Foul Ball.†(10-2-1l, 5-1-1f-4, 8-3-3a)

 

[ALStripes17]

FED has a case where a home run is called "foul." The ruling allows it to be fixed. I'd apply the same in the OP.

SITUATION 4: With the bases empty, the batter hits a long fly ball down the left-field line that easily goes over the outfield fence. With the sun in his eyes, the plate umpire initially declares “Foul Ball,†but then realizes he made a mistake, that the ball did indeed go over the fence in flight in fair territory. RULING: The umpire may reverse his call and declare a home run. The ball is dead because it left the field by going over the fence in flight, not because the umpire declared, “Foul Ball.†(10-2-1l, 5-1-1f-4, 8-3-3a)

The ball was dead because it hit the runner, not because the umpire declared 'Foul'

Great cite

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This was a 2 man game umpire was C.

[grayhawk]

FED has a case where a home run is called "foul."  The ruling allows it to be fixed.  I'd apply the same in the OP.

 

SITUATION 4: With the bases empty, the batter hits a long fly ball down the left-field line that easily goes over the outfield fence. With the sun in his eyes, the plate umpire initially declares “Foul Ball,†but then realizes he made a mistake, that the ball did indeed go over the fence in flight in fair territory. RULING: The umpire may reverse his call and declare a home run. The ball is dead because it left the field by going over the fence in flight, not because the umpire declared, “Foul Ball.†(10-2-1l, 5-1-1f-4, 8-3-3a)

 

 

Spot on.  This is fixable.  Fix it.