NCAA Gladiator Playoff

Replacematt · December 21, 2014

Wisconsin (the top-25 team that tOSU demolished) would beat them (FSU)

Counterfactuals...the last refuge for geeks that can't do math...

...if frogs had wings, they wouldn't bruise their arses.

Hmm. Given that I do math for a living...

Rulekeep · December 21, 2014

Wisconsin (the top-25 team that tOSU demolished) would beat them (FSU)

Counterfactuals...the last refuge for geeks that can't do math...
...if frogs had wings, they wouldn't bruise their arses.

Hmm. Given that I do math for a living...

Watch out, so does he.

*makes retching noises*

Pete Peterson Sr · December 22, 2014

Umpire in Chief · December 22, 2014

I can see the Big 5 conferences not wanting to include others, too much to loose not enough to gain.

A friend gave me his idea this weekend and I'll try to write the best I can.

The top 4 ranked teams get a bye straight to the quarter-finals.

The next 8 teams play a 1 round "play in" then the 4 winners get re-stacked and the #1 will play the new #8 and so on.

But the money will talk, and I do see the playoff system in NCAA football evolving. It will be very interesting to see just how it does.

Replacematt · December 22, 2014

I can see the Big 5 conferences not wanting to include others, too much to loose not enough to gain.

A friend gave me his idea this weekend and I'll try to write the best I can.

The top 4 ranked teams get a bye straight to the quarter-finals.
The next 8 teams play a 1 round "play in" then the 4 winners get re-stacked and the #1 will play the new #8 and so on.

But the money will talk, and I do see the playoff system in NCAA football evolving. It will be very interesting to see just how it does.

So it's the same as the NFL, just without conference or division delineations.

scrounge · December 23, 2014

This is way overthinking it, and probably infeasible due to timing. A 12/16 team model would take four weeks to play out, I just don't see that working. But an 8 team model fits in perfectly, both logistically and economically.

Champions of the Power 5 conferences, 3 at-larges. Simple, objective for conf champ part, plenty of flexibility for strong 2nd place teams and independents (read: ND). Home games for the higher seed until the championship (there's NO way people will travel for 3 weeks - and why is there this reflexive obsession with protecting corrupt old men in funny colored blazers in Tempe, Pasadena, etc???). At the least, regional designated sites (if Big 10 is higher seed, play in Indy/Detroit, etc). But home games solves all the problems - ENORMOUS emphasis on getting that higher seed and preserving/enhancing the regular season, a real reward for being the best, seeing great games in iconic locations instead of not-full neutral sites, etc. This year we'll prob see full locations due to novelty and the particular teams, but I bet it doesn't last.

Conf champ games aren't going anywhere - they're great theater and revenue generators, as well as de facto 1st round games. So with them wrapping up around 1st weekend in Dec, need a couple weeks to finish up terms, etc. So playoff 1st round/qtr finals would be about this past weekend. 2nd round games on Jan 1 or thereabouts, same as semis this year. And the champ game 2 weeks later - just like now. An additional game for 2 teams - which can easily be addressed by eliminating clock stopping on 1st down (the reason for which is unneeded with the 40 sec clock and would help reduce total number of plays for the entire player universe, not just playoff teams).

This year? Who wouldn't want to see this:

#8 Mich State at #1 Alabama - Old Saban team goes down to Tuscaloosa to play new Saban Team

#5 Baylor at #4 Ohio State - Art takes his team to Columbus

#7 Miss State at #2 Oregon - SEC heads way out west to Eugene

#6 TCU at #3 Florida State - Big 12 defense (such that it is) goes to Tallahassee

Potential 2nd round games, next weekend:

#4 Ohio State at #1 Alabama - at least AL earned the home field advantage rather than just automatically getting it via bowl game location

#6 TCU at #2 Oregon - FSU's luck finally runs out (my scenario, my picks) as TCU goes to Eugene

Champ game, neutral field, bid out just like it is today:

#1 Alabama vs #2 Oregon - we may very well get this game, but holy crap, the ride to get there will be so much more compelling.

Some say the #8 team doesn't "deserve" a shot. I have no interest in some ephemeral, existential quest for a committee to pick only the "best" according to some intangible set of criteria or whoever sells the most merchandise or what the empty headed pretty boys on Gameday think. I want a great, meaningful regular season followed by an incredible post-season played in some of college football's legendary locations. I want to see a rabid home crowd going crazy in the temples of the sport. Let all that money and hysteria come to Columbus and Tuscaloosa and Gainesville and Austin and Eugene and....instead of filling the pockets of slimy old guys in funny colored jackets.

The little bowls will survive just fine - they're just TV fodder anyway. The big bowls would go away - and good riddance. Dinosaurs become coal, it's the way it should be.

:rantoff:

CentralOhioUmp30 · December 23, 2014

This is way overthinking it, and probably infeasible due to timing. A 12/16 team model would take four weeks to play out, I just don't see that working. But an 8 team model fits in perfectly, both logistically and economically.

Champions of the Power 5 conferences, 3 at-larges. Simple, objective for conf champ part, plenty of flexibility for strong 2nd place teams and independents (read: ND). Home games for the higher seed until the championship (there's NO way people will travel for 3 weeks - and why is there this reflexive obsession with protecting corrupt old men in funny colored blazers in Tempe, Pasadena, etc???). At the least, regional designated sites (if Big 10 is higher seed, play in Indy/Detroit, etc). But home games solves all the problems - ENORMOUS emphasis on getting that higher seed and preserving/enhancing the regular season, a real reward for being the best, seeing great games in iconic locations instead of not-full neutral sites, etc. This year we'll prob see full locations due to novelty and the particular teams, but I bet it doesn't last.

Conf champ games aren't going anywhere - they're great theater and revenue generators, as well as de facto 1st round games. So with them wrapping up around 1st weekend in Dec, need a couple weeks to finish up terms, etc. So playoff 1st round/qtr finals would be about this past weekend. 2nd round games on Jan 1 or thereabouts, same as semis this year. And the champ game 2 weeks later - just like now. An additional game for 2 teams - which can easily be addressed by eliminating clock stopping on 1st down (the reason for which is unneeded with the 40 sec clock and would help reduce total number of plays for the entire player universe, not just playoff teams).

This year? Who wouldn't want to see this:

#8 Mich State at #1 Alabama - Old Saban team goes down to Tuscaloosa to play new Saban Team

#5 Baylor at #4 Ohio State - Art takes his team to Columbus

#7 Miss State at #2 Oregon - SEC heads way out west to Eugene

#6 TCU at #3 Florida State - Big 12 defense (such that it is) goes to Tallahassee

Potential 2nd round games, next weekend:

#4 Ohio State at #1 Alabama - at least AL earned the home field advantage rather than just automatically getting it via bowl game location

#6 TCU at #2 Oregon - FSU's luck finally runs out (my scenario, my picks) as TCU goes to Eugene

Champ game, neutral field, bid out just like it is today:

#1 Alabama vs #2 Oregon - we may very well get this game, but holy crap, the ride to get there will be so much more compelling.

Some say the #8 team doesn't "deserve" a shot. I have no interest in some ephemeral, existential quest for a committee to pick only the "best" according to some intangible set of criteria or whoever sells the most merchandise or what the empty headed pretty boys on Gameday think. I want a great, meaningful regular season followed by an incredible post-season played in some of college football's legendary locations. I want to see a rabid home crowd going crazy in the temples of the sport. Let all that money and hysteria come to Columbus and Tuscaloosa and Gainesville and Austin and Eugene and....instead of filling the pockets of slimy old guys in funny colored jackets.

The little bowls will survive just fine - they're just TV fodder anyway. The big bowls would go away - and good riddance. Dinosaurs become coal, it's the way it should be.

Like the idea. Unfortunately, barring an SEC policy-shift, it doesn't even seem remotely possible. SEC will never agree to a format where one of their teams could potentially have to play a playoff game in the North during December/January.

The current status quo for them is great. Their teams barely have to travel because four of the Big Six bowls are located in the conference's footprint, which in turn means a heavy fan advantage. And they don't have to contend with any weather issues because four of the six bowls are played in domes and the other two are played in near perfect weather in Miami and Pasadena.

Can't have any of those teams play in the big, bad North. No, no, no. They would have problems getting their fans up here and the players and coaches would be concerned about playing in tough weather conditions.

I don't blame them. I'd probably feel the same way if my team was from the South. Just reality.

ricka56 · December 23, 2014

#8 Mich State at #1 Alabama - Old Saban team goes down to Tuscaloosa to play new Saban Team

#5 Baylor at #4 Ohio State - Art takes his team to Columbus

#7 Miss State at #2 Oregon - SEC heads way out west to Eugene

#6 TCU at #3 Florida State - Big 12 defense (such that it is) goes to Tallahassee

The only attraction here would be the possible train wreck...and who doesn't love a good train wreck.

The NCAAF playoffs have already been expanded enough (to include the train wreck hopeful B1G entry).

Replacematt · December 24, 2014

Like the idea. Unfortunately, barring an SEC policy-shift, it doesn't even seem remotely possible. SEC will never agree to a format where one of their teams could potentially have to play a playoff game in the North during December/January.

The current status quo for them is great. Their teams barely have to travel because four of the Big Six bowls are located in the conference's footprint, which in turn means a heavy fan advantage. And they don't have to contend with any weather issues because four of the six bowls are played in domes and the other two are played in near perfect weather in Miami and Pasadena.

Can't have any of those teams play in the big, bad North. No, no, no. They would have problems getting their fans up here and the players and coaches would be concerned about playing in tough weather conditions.

I don't blame them. I'd probably feel the same way if my team was from the South. Just reality.

SEC wouldn't have to like it. They could either go along with the rest of the conferences, or fade into irrelevance, just like the NIT/NCAA tournament transition in the 1950s.

Umpire in Chief · December 24, 2014

The SEC does have the most to lose in such a situation, at least as it stands now. But the SEC has been a driving force of innovation both in football & baseball.

Pete Peterson Sr · December 25, 2014

This is way overthinking it, and probably infeasible due to timing. A 12/16 team model would take four weeks to play out, I just don't see that working. But an 8 team model fits in perfectly, both logistically and economically.

Champions of the Power 5 conferences, 3 at-larges. Simple, objective for conf champ part, plenty of flexibility for strong 2nd place teams and independents (read: ND). Home games for the higher seed until the championship (there's NO way people will travel for 3 weeks - and why is there this reflexive obsession with protecting corrupt old men in funny colored blazers in Tempe, Pasadena, etc???). At the least, regional designated sites (if Big 10 is higher seed, play in Indy/Detroit, etc). But home games solves all the problems - ENORMOUS emphasis on getting that higher seed and preserving/enhancing the regular season, a real reward for being the best, seeing great games in iconic locations instead of not-full neutral sites, etc. This year we'll prob see full locations due to novelty and the particular teams, but I bet it doesn't last.

Conf champ games aren't going anywhere - they're great theater and revenue generators, as well as de facto 1st round games. So with them wrapping up around 1st weekend in Dec, need a couple weeks to finish up terms, etc. So playoff 1st round/qtr finals would be about this past weekend. 2nd round games on Jan 1 or thereabouts, same as semis this year. And the champ game 2 weeks later - just like now. An additional game for 2 teams - which can easily be addressed by eliminating clock stopping on 1st down (the reason for which is unneeded with the 40 sec clock and would help reduce total number of plays for the entire player universe, not just playoff teams).

This year? Who wouldn't want to see this:

#8 Mich State at #1 Alabama - Old Saban team goes down to Tuscaloosa to play new Saban Team

#5 Baylor at #4 Ohio State - Art takes his team to Columbus

#7 Miss State at #2 Oregon - SEC heads way out west to Eugene

#6 TCU at #3 Florida State - Big 12 defense (such that it is) goes to Tallahassee

Potential 2nd round games, next weekend:

#4 Ohio State at #1 Alabama - at least AL earned the home field advantage rather than just automatically getting it via bowl game location

#6 TCU at #2 Oregon - FSU's luck finally runs out (my scenario, my picks) as TCU goes to Eugene

Champ game, neutral field, bid out just like it is today:

#1 Alabama vs #2 Oregon - we may very well get this game, but holy crap, the ride to get there will be so much more compelling.

Some say the #8 team doesn't "deserve" a shot. I have no interest in some ephemeral, existential quest for a committee to pick only the "best" according to some intangible set of criteria or whoever sells the most merchandise or what the empty headed pretty boys on Gameday think. I want a great, meaningful regular season followed by an incredible post-season played in some of college football's legendary locations. I want to see a rabid home crowd going crazy in the temples of the sport. Let all that money and hysteria come to Columbus and Tuscaloosa and Gainesville and Austin and Eugene and....instead of filling the pockets of slimy old guys in funny colored jackets.

The little bowls will survive just fine - they're just TV fodder anyway. The big bowls would go away - and good riddance. Dinosaurs become coal, it's the way it should be.

Like the idea. Unfortunately, barring an SEC policy-shift, it doesn't even seem remotely possible. SEC will never agree to a format where one of their teams could potentially have to play a playoff game in the North during December/January.

The current status quo for them is great. Their teams barely have to travel because four of the Big Six bowls are located in the conference's footprint, which in turn means a heavy fan advantage. And they don't have to contend with any weather issues because four of the six bowls are played in domes and the other two are played in near perfect weather in Miami and Pasadena.

Can't have any of those teams play in the big, bad North. No, no, no. They would have problems getting their fans up here and the players and coaches would be concerned about playing in tough weather conditions.

I don't blame them. I'd probably feel the same way if my team was from the South. Just reality.

I don't see any B1G teams clamoring to play in the heat and humidity of the South in August or September, either...

scrounge · December 25, 2014

I think the weather issue is one of the biggest canards in sports. Alabama would have absolutely no problem coming to Columbus or wherever and playing well. Cold by itself is a complete non-issue...Ohio State's roster is full of players from warmer states, they didn't take magic cold pills when they got here. And Alabama has players from up here as well. Trey DePriest wouldn't suddenly shudder from a little chill anymore than Joey Bosa is somehow magically different than before he got here. Rain/wind? Totally different story...but it rains down south too. And hell, Ohio State would have *more* to lose from poor weather than other teams, it reduces the talent gap. I'd much rather play Alabama in Indy in a dome than in 30 degree snow in a neutral site. My beef is the glorified home games, like playing LSU at "neutral" friggin' New Orleans.

The economics of early-round neutral site games will take care of this problem, when (if) college presidents ever figure out that they're better off seeing all that money in their hometowns instead of lining the pockets of corrupt old men in stupid looking blazers in Tempe, Pasadena, etc. It may take a few years, but it will happen...maybe quicker than any of us expect.

CentralOhioUmp30 · December 29, 2014

I think the weather issue is one of the biggest canards in sports. Alabama would have absolutely no problem coming to Columbus or wherever and playing well. Cold by itself is a complete non-issue...Ohio State's roster is full of players from warmer states, they didn't take magic cold pills when they got here. And Alabama has players from up here as well. Trey DePriest wouldn't suddenly shudder from a little chill anymore than Joey Bosa is somehow magically different than before he got here. Rain/wind? Totally different story...but it rains down south too. And hell, Ohio State would have *more* to lose from poor weather than other teams, it reduces the talent gap. I'd much rather play Alabama in Indy in a dome than in 30 degree snow in a neutral site. My beef is the glorified home games, like playing LSU at "neutral" friggin' New Orleans.

The economics of early-round neutral site games will take care of this problem, when (if) college presidents ever figure out that they're better off seeing all that money in their hometowns instead of lining the pockets of corrupt old men in stupid looking blazers in Tempe, Pasadena, etc. It may take a few years, but it will happen...maybe quicker than any of us expect.

That is 90% of the equation. SEC has an inherent advantage during bowl season that they've held on to for pretty much ever. ACC and Pac 12 also have multiple playoff bowls in their footprint, so they're not exactly kicking and screaming to have home playoff games at this point. And the Big 12 has one major bowl in its footprint and all of the schools outside of West Virginia are relatively close to the major bowls.

The other smaller part of the equation is absolutely weather. Most of the kids from Florida, Alabama and Louisiana have never had to play in sub freezing temperatures before and I'm sure even less have seen snow in person. If you don't think LSU or Alabama would be at a disadvantage coming to Columbus or Ann Arbor in late December/early January, then you just aren't thinking clearly. You'd be putting the Southern teams into a weather environment that most players have only seen on TV AND their fans probably wouldn't be that interested in traveling to Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, etc. for their winter vacation. How could that not possibly be an advantage for the B1G teams?

It's an incredible set up for the SEC, Pac 12, ACC and to a smaller extent, the Big 12 right now. I'll believe those schools outside of the B1G will allow home games for the playoffs when I see it.

CentralOhioUmp30 · December 29, 2014

This is way overthinking it, and probably infeasible due to timing. A 12/16 team model would take four weeks to play out, I just don't see that working. But an 8 team model fits in perfectly, both logistically and economically.

Champions of the Power 5 conferences, 3 at-larges. Simple, objective for conf champ part, plenty of flexibility for strong 2nd place teams and independents (read: ND). Home games for the higher seed until the championship (there's NO way people will travel for 3 weeks - and why is there this reflexive obsession with protecting corrupt old men in funny colored blazers in Tempe, Pasadena, etc???). At the least, regional designated sites (if Big 10 is higher seed, play in Indy/Detroit, etc). But home games solves all the problems - ENORMOUS emphasis on getting that higher seed and preserving/enhancing the regular season, a real reward for being the best, seeing great games in iconic locations instead of not-full neutral sites, etc. This year we'll prob see full locations due to novelty and the particular teams, but I bet it doesn't last.

Conf champ games aren't going anywhere - they're great theater and revenue generators, as well as de facto 1st round games. So with them wrapping up around 1st weekend in Dec, need a couple weeks to finish up terms, etc. So playoff 1st round/qtr finals would be about this past weekend. 2nd round games on Jan 1 or thereabouts, same as semis this year. And the champ game 2 weeks later - just like now. An additional game for 2 teams - which can easily be addressed by eliminating clock stopping on 1st down (the reason for which is unneeded with the 40 sec clock and would help reduce total number of plays for the entire player universe, not just playoff teams).

This year? Who wouldn't want to see this:

#8 Mich State at #1 Alabama - Old Saban team goes down to Tuscaloosa to play new Saban Team

#5 Baylor at #4 Ohio State - Art takes his team to Columbus

#7 Miss State at #2 Oregon - SEC heads way out west to Eugene

#6 TCU at #3 Florida State - Big 12 defense (such that it is) goes to Tallahassee

Potential 2nd round games, next weekend:

#4 Ohio State at #1 Alabama - at least AL earned the home field advantage rather than just automatically getting it via bowl game location

#6 TCU at #2 Oregon - FSU's luck finally runs out (my scenario, my picks) as TCU goes to Eugene

Champ game, neutral field, bid out just like it is today:

#1 Alabama vs #2 Oregon - we may very well get this game, but holy crap, the ride to get there will be so much more compelling.

Some say the #8 team doesn't "deserve" a shot. I have no interest in some ephemeral, existential quest for a committee to pick only the "best" according to some intangible set of criteria or whoever sells the most merchandise or what the empty headed pretty boys on Gameday think. I want a great, meaningful regular season followed by an incredible post-season played in some of college football's legendary locations. I want to see a rabid home crowd going crazy in the temples of the sport. Let all that money and hysteria come to Columbus and Tuscaloosa and Gainesville and Austin and Eugene and....instead of filling the pockets of slimy old guys in funny colored jackets.

The little bowls will survive just fine - they're just TV fodder anyway. The big bowls would go away - and good riddance. Dinosaurs become coal, it's the way it should be.

Like the idea. Unfortunately, barring an SEC policy-shift, it doesn't even seem remotely possible. SEC will never agree to a format where one of their teams could potentially have to play a playoff game in the North during December/January.

The current status quo for them is great. Their teams barely have to travel because four of the Big Six bowls are located in the conference's footprint, which in turn means a heavy fan advantage. And they don't have to contend with any weather issues because four of the six bowls are played in domes and the other two are played in near perfect weather in Miami and Pasadena.

Can't have any of those teams play in the big, bad North. No, no, no. They would have problems getting their fans up here and the players and coaches would be concerned about playing in tough weather conditions.

I don't blame them. I'd probably feel the same way if my team was from the South. Just reality.

I don't see any B1G teams clamoring to play in the heat and humidity of the South in August or September, either...

Oh come on. It's not the same frequency as the South, but we aren't strangers to 90+ degrees and excruciating humidity up here in Ohio. Hell, OSU's home opener a couple years ago was played in 93 degrees with debilitating humidity.

The problem is, SEC teams rarely play home-and-home series. They like the "neutral" site games in Texas or the Georgia Dome. However, occasionally you get teams with balls (Alabama in 2010 and 2011 and LSU this year and next year). And the teams that do that should be commended.

ricka56 · December 30, 2014

Yr___B1G___SEC

11___4-6____6-3

12___2-5____6-3

13___2-5____7-3

14___2-3____4-1 (as of Dec 30)

So warm weather locales account for these conference bowl records...snicker, snicker

CentralOhioUmp30 · December 31, 2014

Yr___B1G___SEC

11___4-6____6-3

12___2-5____6-3

13___2-5____7-3

14___2-3____4-1 (as of Dec 30)

So warm weather locales account for these conference bowl records...snicker, snicker

Absolutely have an effect. SEC is flat out the better conference, but you've got to be simple-minded to not acknowledge the advantages of playing the majority of bowls in the South when it relates to football.

Umpire in Chief · December 31, 2014

Location is important. But I don't want to give it too much significance.

I watched a few bowl games (even so far this year) where it doesn't look they could have paid people to go to.

I do think as we see the evolution of the system these second tier bowls be played at the home stadium of one of the teams. It only makes sense since it in the end is all about the money.

But I would bet that at some point for the second tier bowls they will announce the primary sponsor, the criteria for the teams and the criteria for the team to make it a home game. Like the Umpire-Empire bowl featuring American Athletic team vs Mountain West team. School with the highest average home attendance is home.

Now the schools can cash in yet again. Not only the TV time/money but parking, concessions, memorabilia and everything else. I bet the schools would jump all over this if offered. And this would also bring the bowl games back to what they are supposed to be, a fan experience, butts in seats.

You will always be able to sell out the top tier bowls, but it is an awful feeling watching a game you are interested in and the seats be empty. Whether it's home or away the fan furry and experience at home often correlates to the fan experience at the event.

CentralOhioUmp30 · December 31, 2014

I'm mainly talking about the big time New Year's Six bowls and even the Outback, Capital One and Tax Slayer, etc. which feature upper quarter teams from the major conferences. You have no idea what you're going to get with the lower tier bowls because they aren't trying to match the best teams together. They're trying to get the largest fan bases and brands together, regardless of record or quality of team, to fill their ticket quota.

Bigger bowls are also unpredictable, but at that level there's pretty much only top 15 teams playing, so skill levels are closer and ANY edge a particular team has could be the difference between a win and a loss.

I like your idea though, UIC. Never thought of on-site bowl exhibitions before. Could do like a split of the sponsor fees to like 75 or 80% for the visiting team and the home teams gets the other 20-25% plus gate fees and concessions. Ultimately both teams come out ahead financially, which based on the amount of money it takes just to transport and house the players and staff for a bowl is a pretty big deal.

You'd still want the top 20 or so teams to travel to bowl sites because those fan bases will usually travel to see the game. But any bowl that's pre-Christmas usually has trouble filling seats.

Replacematt · January 2, 2015

Who wants to start baking the crow for tonight's midnight snack?

JaxRolo · January 2, 2015

Quack Attack!!!!

Umpire in Chief · January 2, 2015

I actually didn't see either game but OMG I'm shocked. But I think it may be a pretty competitive title game.

CentralOhioUmp30 · January 2, 2015

I am a bit geeked up for the upcoming NCAAF playoffs. Bama gets a tune-up game with the B1G entry...nice and Oregon/FSU get to battle it out for the other final berth...should be fun to watch.

Good call.

CentralOhioUmp30 · January 2, 2015

Wish someone could explain to me how TCU, who was ranked 3rd falls out of the top 4 by blowing out the team they're playing the final week. Strength of schedule be damned. BIG 10 over rated this season.

Yep. TCU played in a conference that is steam rolling towards a 1-5 bowl record and blew a 21 point lead to a Baylor team that was beaten by a B1G team. B1G teams played 10 bowl games and were underdogs in each of them, yet they finish 5-5. But absolutely. We should definitely feel bad for TCU and the B1G is undoubtedly overrated. Very astute. :smachhead:

Ah, tis the season for the B1G entry fans to roll out the Rodney Dangerfield laments...

...only thing better is listening to their silence when the reasons that they "get no respect" becomes evident.

You were saying?

CentralOhioUmp30 · January 2, 2015

#8 Mich State at #1 Alabama - Old Saban team goes down to Tuscaloosa to play new Saban Team

#5 Baylor at #4 Ohio State - Art takes his team to Columbus

#7 Miss State at #2 Oregon - SEC heads way out west to Eugene

#6 TCU at #3 Florida State - Big 12 defense (such that it is) goes to Tallahassee

The only attraction here would be the possible train wreck...and who doesn't love a good train wreck.

The NCAAF playoffs have already been expanded enough (to include the train wreck hopeful B1G entry).

You were right about a train wreck. Of course, Alabama was the team standing on the tracks.

CentralOhioUmp30 · January 2, 2015

Yr___B1G___SEC

11___4-6____6-3

12___2-5____6-3

13___2-5____7-3

14___2-3____4-1 (as of Dec 30)

So warm weather locales account for these conference bowl records...snicker, snicker

Went down to the heart of the SEC and still kicked some elephant ass.

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