BR and First baseman

[Jmeader26]

I umpire tournament and pony ball and i see Batter Runners in side the fair/foul line and run into/step on them. I usally talk to them and their coach about it. Yesterday i was playing in a JUCO game a kid on my team hit a ground ball and got all pissed off about it and for some reason thought it was a good idea to try and step on the 1b ankle and the PU gave  poor ejection mechanic and tossed the kid on my team. I think the ejection was warranted but at what age do you start running kids for this    

[BalkHawk]

13 is my best guess, but any age when you can judge he was making MC.

the OP could be more clear. B/R must run inside the foul line to touch first.

[mstaylor]

If I understand your OP, you are saying you are seeing runners taking an inside line to intentionally step on or run into the F3. If this is what you are seeing I would address it at any age. Dangerous or malicious play is uncalled for in youth ball to college. 

[Jmeader26]

If I understand your OP, you are saying you are seeing runners taking an inside line to intentionally step on or run into the F3. If this is what you are seeing I would address it at any age. Dangerous or malicious play is uncalled for in youth ball to college. 

Yes the B/R taking the inside to intentionally step on F3

[Thunderheads]

If you're 100% sure it's intentional, dump the brat, regardless of age ....but, that's a HTBT and sometimes can be hard to judge .....

 

The older, the easier because supposedly they know better

[cyclonehokiece]

If you're 100% sure it's intentional, dump the brat, regardless of age ....but, that's a HTBT and sometimes can be hard to judge .....

 

The older, the easier because supposedly they know better

This. I haven't had it happen yet (knock on wood) but there is always something you should be watching.

[mstaylor]

I have warned and I have dumped for this offense. If he misses or I'm not sure then he gets a warning. If he contacts him, gone, and age does not matter. 

[wmmliggett]

My ANY age. If they're playing travel ball, they should know better by the time they're 10. My experience as a teach and an umpire has taught me one thing: Consequences work; warnings don't!

[mstaylor]

I agree, I wa. rn when I'm not sure I saw it correctly

[Jocko]

Let me twist the OP a bit...

B1 hits a grounder to F5 who backhands it in foul territory

B1 runs legally in the lane

Throw pulls F3 towards the plate

B1 and F3 collide and B1 goes down before touching 1B

F3 collects the ball and tags B1 who never got to the bag

There was no MC

[cyclonehokiece]

Let me twist the OP a bit...

B1 hits a grounder to F5 who backhands it in foul territory

B1 runs legally in the lane

Throw pulls F3 towards the plate

B1 and F3 collide and B1 goes down before touching 1B

F3 collects the ball and tags B1 who never got to the bag

There was no MC

 

Under FED, assuming first baseman has the ball, nothing, tag out is good.  If first baseman does not have the ball, obstruction, runner gets first, since FED is pretty clear.

[mstaylor]

Isn't it a foul ball?

[cyclonehokiece]

Isn't it a foul ball?

Do'h read whole post disregard my other post, "FOUL!"

[Jocko]

Ok. Ok. Cheap entertainment. Couldn't resist.

It bounded over the bag and was backhanded in foul ground.

Now what?

[BT_Blue]

I want to know how Michael did the "spoiler" thing. Thats cool! Oh and in Jocko's re re modified OP. Out.

[mstaylor]

[ spoiler ] write text [ /spoiler ]  Take the spaces  between spoiler. Just like HTML except with brackets

[BT_Blue]

Thanks Michael. I saw the post about how to do the spoiler after I read this one. Its what I get for checking the forum from bottom to top rather then the other way around.