so just when does time start?

[Tyennie]

There was a conversation a couple weeks ago about when some of us actually "start the clock" if we are working a game that has a time limit. Which got me thinking today - When does the 1 minute for pitcher warm up start? As soon as the third out is made to end the inning? When the last defensive player crosses the foul line? When F1 takes his place on the hill? so when do you start the clock on the pitchers warm ups??

[Rich Ives]

There was a conversation a couple weeks ago about when some of us actually "start the clock" if we are working a game that has a time limit. Which got me thinking today - When does the 1 minute for pitcher warm up start? As soon as the third out is made to end the inning? When the last defensive player crosses the foul line? When F1 takes his place on the hill? so when do you start the clock on the pitchers warm ups??

The rule stars "When the pitcher taks his position . . . ."

Why is this hard?

[noumpere]

There was a conversation a couple weeks ago about when some of us actually "start the clock" if we are working a game that has a time limit. Which got me thinking today - When does the 1 minute for pitcher warm up start? As soon as the third out is made to end the inning? When the last defensive player crosses the foul line? When F1 takes his place on the hill? so when do you start the clock on the pitchers warm ups??

The rule stars "When the pitcher taks his position . . . ."

Why is this hard?

Or in college it starts when the last defender crosses the foul line and in HS it starts when the third out is made.

I agree with Rich that why is this hard and I think there are lots more important things to be worried about at a game (and I dont mean what color ball bags you where or whether you crease your cap)

[24sdad]

Was with an evaluator at a Big West Conference game a while back and was working the stop watch. Was told 90 seconds between innings, beginning when the last defensive player leaves the field. I do not know if this is true for all NCAA.

In FED, the starting pitcher can use eight warm up throws to be completed in 60 seconds timed from the first throw. In subsequent innings, he is allowed five throws, completed in 60 seconds timed from the previous innings last out.

OBR eight throws completed in 60 seconds timed from when he takes his position.

I don't work LL, but I am guessing it is similar to OBR.

Just keep the game moving and it will take care of itself.

[sdix00]

LL and below I tell coaches at the plate meeting 60 seconds from third out to first pitch. I don't mention hustle in HS. If F1 and F2 hustle out, they might get 4 pitches in. If they don't, I give them 2 pitches and they figure it out in the next inning.

Even then, the full switch takes nearly 90 seconds. I have zero reservations about giving two pitches to an F1 that lollygags.

[Tyennie]

Rich, It isn't difficult, and as you can tell there are varying ideas on the whole thing. I was just curious, as our season will soon start here and one of my pet peeves is the teams that take for-freaking-ever to get their butts on the field. So if we go with the 'letter of the law' if a pitcher takes his time getting to the hill, then he still gets his 60 seconds. I don't think so. I do agree there are more important things to worry about on the field, but when a team starts to drag their collective backsides......

[moblue]

I had a pitcher yesterday that only wanted two pitches between innings. Needless to say it kept things moving along pretty well.

[Tyennie]

i love those guys!! and catchers that will actually be ready rather than waiting until the third out is made before gearing up. Unless of course they are on base or at bat. but the ones that sit around the dugout and putz around. :mad:

[Rich Ives]

NCAA 9-2-i

90 Seconds (or more if televised) - The clock starts with the last out of an inning and stops when the pitcher begins his pitching motion.

FED

At the beginning of each subsequent inning, the pitcher may warm up by using not more

than five throws, completed in one minute (timed from the third out of the previous half inning)

OBR(LL)

When a pitcher takes his (a) position - one minute

Is there some reasonable reason why I can't change the font size without switching to manual control?

[noumpere]

NCAA 9-2-i

90 Seconds (or more if televised) - The clock starts with the last out of an inning and stops when the pitcher begins his pitching motion.

I know thats what the rule book says but the NCA interpretation is that it starts when the last defender crosses into foul territory. The interprtation came into play after the rule book was printed last year and they have a two year cycle on printing rules changes. I am guessing that the next yers book will have the corrected wording.

[mstaylor]

It's not hard unless you work multiple levels and they are all different. While some think it is not that big a deal, evidently NCAA and MLB think it is a big enough of a deal to require their umpires to carry timing devices. At the HS and LL levels precision is less important but keeping them moving is very important.