High School study guide - FPSR responsibilities

[mstaylor]

Yes, you get both runners on a FPSR violation, the runner causing the violation and the BR.

[JaxRolo]

Have any of you called this anywhere other than 2nd base?

[mstaylor]

Sure.

[ukce1861]

Has to be willful and deliberate in OBR, but for FED yes, and immediate dead ball.

Interesting. So even if there's no shot at a double play, you still get two outs...

[johnnyg08]

for FED yes

[JaxRolo]

If I recall correctly any time that I or a partner have called the FPSR the coach always comes out for an explanation. I have had 1 ejection of a HC for this.

[mstaylor]

Yes, having a shot doesn't come into it. It is a combo safety and sportmanship rule. FED wants it punitive for both reasons. You will occasionally get a coach get crazy over it because that's not the way they learned baseball. Call it at the plate and I assure you somebody is going home, don't let that stop you.

[zm1283]

There was a video on the NCAA Arbiter site a while back where R3 leg whipped F2 as he was pivoting to turn a double play. The PU called INT and got the double play.

[mstaylor]

Called that many times. The coach will counter that he slid at the bag. Yeah, but leg whipping is still not allowed.

[alex7]

"A runner is expected to stop short of the back edge of home plate..."

Full sprint home, FP situation, no play at home, slides...and stops on a dime! But hey, no pop-up slides either!

Just silly. I get it if there's a play being made at home - a 1-2-3 DP or something. Otherwise, "catcher, might not want to stand in the way of the oncoming runner when there's no play being made here. What if he didn't slide?"

[mstaylor]

"A runner is expected to stop short of the back edge of home plate..."

Full sprint home, FP situation, no play at home, slides...and stops on a dime! But hey, no pop-up slides either!

Just silly. I get it if there's a play being made at home - a 1-2-3 DP or something. Otherwise, "catcher, might not want to stand in the way of the oncoming runner when there's no play being made here. What if he didn't slide?"

If there is no play there then certainly the can be no FPSR. Sliding is not required.

[jjskitours]

And remember the 2nd out is on the batter-runner. For example a force play at 3rd violation where F5 then throws to 2nd trying to get force there.

Even if he does get the runner at 2nd he is safe because the ball is dead immediately at 3rd and B/R declared out.

[JaxRolo]

And remember the 2nd out is on the batter-runner. For example a force play at 3rd violation where F5 then throws to 2nd trying to get force there.

Even if he does get the runner at 2nd he is safe because the ball is dead immediately at 3rd and B/R declared out.

Very good example! Thanks!