tagging base on double play FED

[blp79]

FED rules,Situation runner on first ground ball to f4 f6 receives the ball from f4 but does not touch the bad but is close (basically steps over it).By rule he must touch the bag,how much leeway to you other allow in this situation

[mstaylor]

Boy is that a loaded question. In the past as long as the timing was right you let it go. It was to protect the middle infielders. Now you have the FPSR and it is being advocated to make them touch the base because they have the protection to either side of the bag. Talk to local big dogs and see what they do in your area so you are making the expected call.

[jjb]

Uh-Oh, here comes another Neighborhood Play again.

I'm with Mike on this one: if the rules protect the infielder (FPSR), make 'em touch.

[Umpire in Chief]

Uh-Oh, here comes another Neighborhood Play again.

I'm with Mike on this one: if the rules protect the infielder (FPSR), make 'em touch.

+1 :nod:

[blp79]

I just bring this up because in a game last weekend i called a runner safe in that situation,just wondered how everyone else calls it

[mstaylor]

Just make sure your PU is watching the FPSR so you can turn with the ball. Remember it is a safety rule, whether the out is possible or not is irrelevant.

[BrianC14]

I just bring this up because in a game last weekend i called a runner safe in that situation,just wondered how everyone else calls it

Call it the way you see it. Why worry about how "everyone else" is doing it?

[mstaylor]

He only needs to worry how his association handles it. He doesn't want to be the only gy calling that way and end up under the bus because others aren't on the same page.

[blp79]

Call it the way you see it. Why worry about how "everyone else" is doing it?

I am going to call it the way I see it regardless,and I was just curious how much lee-way some of you on this forum give the fielder :HS

[blp79]

He only needs to worry how his association handles it. He doesn't want to be the only gy calling that way and end up under the bus because others aren't on the same page.

I have talked to a few vets in my assoc and some are giving lee-way to the fielder and some are not,and I have already heard from a coach how no one else has called that yet.

[BrianC14]

Pass.

I'm just not going to bother.

:shakehead:

[noumpere]

I am going to call it the way I see it regardless,

Yes, call it the way you see it, see what you need to see. On a routine play, you don't need to see much, so you won't see the foot miss the base. On a non-routine play, you do need to see more (the defense is making you look), so you will see the miss (or touch).

And, yes, it's a hard concept to explain.

[Pops]

We make them touch the base when turning a double play. However, when the play occurs very fast, it's difficult to be 100% sure. That's why most umpires will lean toward calling an out if it's a very close call. And the base ump is much closer to the play than the coach.