My first ejection

[critter]

Now only if i can remember it. this was about two/three years ago.

Cal ripken minor game. Pitcher struggle close pitch on outside coach believes its a strike. I told the coach outside, he continue talking i told him that now he is arguing a judgement call. he continues i throw him out ( i think i might of had a quick hook here.

After the game i forgot i had some of the baseball left so i come back and he like "that was unnecessarily" or something along those lines. fan goes "come on once i said something to him he shut up.

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Cal ripken major 70 feet coach comes and argues i didn't give the batter enough time to get in box. In my mind i did. and he ask me how to get it. I told him millions. The same answer. Coach still yelling i go and warn the coach remind you the vice president saw this. After he yelled and complain some more i sent him packing.

And the vice president i think he was my old gym teacher in elementary school good guy. He said i warn him and gave him plenty of times to cool down. He agreed with my ejection.

^that was my second ejection

third ejection

Babe ruth By myself make up game cause of rain. D vs R D was not pleased with my strike zone and been barking at me all day long. So i finally throw the coach out coming out and still aguring over it. coach like " i was talking to my catcher"

I heard exactly what he said nice excuses coach. Manager tires to protect his assiant coach but i warn him to i like you want to go to.

I can tell you these coach don't like me lol

[Aging_Arbiter]

If you talk to them, the same way that you type, it's understandable.

[blindumpire99]

I made my first hook at the ripe ol' veteran age of 16 during a 12 y/o game..

A scorekeeper Dad who was always griping about any game in which his little junior was involved. And he always seemed to smell of a pregame drink or three..

I had talked to some older experienced umps, especially my Dad, about what to do and how I should handle it if he really got outta line again.

They told me...

I was not looking to throw him out--as with all EJ's-- he did it himself.

A week or so later I had his team.. I had a banger at first. Well here is Mr Smartypants doing the arguing (not the HC), I remember him saying " That's a s**t call!"

o O ..I gave him a royal you're outta here hook:nod:..

He smarted off that he wasn't going anywhere, calline me a "little s**t" and went to sit back down in the dugout..

My Dad, who was the U1 in the game calmly walked over and told him to leave. Smartypants made a remark about seeing me after the game ( I'm 16 and I guess buttmunch was maybe 40). My Dad told him it would be the biggest mistake that he'd ever make and he would have him arrested..

The few encounters that I had with buttmunch's team after that day? he never said another word ever..

One of my two most memorable EJ situations occurred in the parking lot after a HS bench clearing brawl. I was changing in the parking lot and here comes Dad, storming across the lot with his own Little Junior in tow, who had instigated the entire affair by sucker punching the third baseman after a swipe tag,.

"Hey blue! Hey you, I wanna talk to you!. Looking quickly for my cell phone or school officials or even my partner and seeing nothing or no one, I readied myself.

"You're the one who threw my boy out, right?" I told him that I was and emphasized why.

He cut me off in mid sentence.

"Well he's got something to say to you, Blue! Now go ahead!"

The player launched into an apology about the whole thing explaining that he didn't know why he had even done what he did.

When Junior finished, Dad grabbed his arm, apologized to me himself and informed me that his boy "won't never act like that again after I get him home!".....

Kudos sir...

[Aging_Arbiter]

My first ejection was less than memorable. I had a coach that was chirping about every little thing. Yammer yammer yammer, on he went. I was propbably in my 3rd or 4th year and was umpiring in a local league outside of the base where I was stationed. Well, needless to say, the "locals" had obviously had some run ins with military personnel in the past, and had a chip on their shoulder about it.

About the 3rd inning, my thick skin had wore a little thin. I sent the catcher to talk to his pitcher, the batter down the 3B coach and asked the coach to bring his scorebook out as I pulled out my line-up card. Then out of earshot of everyone, I quietly & politely informed him that if he didn't find someone that he had to be immediately, that the league would find out the hard way that they needed to re-evaluate his involvement with the league.

No sooner had I put the ball back in play, than "his phone rang". He had a call from work and had to leave. He asked for time to run the book out to the 3B coach, and on his way back by me, gave me a little head nod and said "thanks blue".

I wonder if the tanks was for allowing him to make an exit......or allowing time for him to turn over the book. The world, may never know........

[th3]

you were going to tell the league that he yammered a lot?

[Aging_Arbiter]

Geeez, you just have to love NJ people. It must be all of those petrol/chemical refineries in "the garden state". Follow the bouncing ball th3. He left the game him self <bounce> before <bounce> I <bounce> ejected <bounce> him.

[mstaylor]

I don't remember my first ejection, but it was a player. Some type of bat tossing or some such. My first coach ejection was my boss, SrLL. I had my boss in the third base dugout, his boss in the first base, both known chirpers. I had a coach working the bases and I was there as the elephant hunter. Play at second involving a non slide, he DM wanted an out, BU said no. They came to me for an interp and I told the BU he was correct. The DM had been on the wrong end of this rule several times during the season. Now he's chirping on everything and we had a R1 and a 3/2 count. I called strike three but not as quickly as he would have liked. His R1 took off on what he thought was a ball and almost got picked. The manager started up the line yakking at me. I turned and dumpd him. The look was priceless. When I called in my ejection report the next morning, I was asked who I had. When I said who the managers were, the president said whatever I did was probably fine. :wave:

[th3]

i'm sorry to upset you aa..i was just wondering how a coach who yammers at the ump (like many do) would worry about you reporting to the league. and i'm not sure why my answer elicited insults about the state i live in...what happened to that thick skin of yours? and what was your 1st ejection?

[blindumpire99]

If we want to insult states, Let's make it worthwhile..

last time I looked Pennsylvania AND New Jersey fought for the enemy during "The Great Patriotic War Against the Terrorist Northern Aggressors Against the Peaceful Peoples of The South"....

I had my picture made by a group of enemy Yankee " friends" while we toured the Gettysburg battlefield years ago at the historic North Carolina 26th Regiment's staute. You know, the proud defenders of the Truth, Justice and the Confederate Way who advanced the farthest,and suffered the most casualties of the entire battle, while advancing into enemy territory...

(That reminds me of how I just missed being eligible for the Confedrate draft back then)

But I'd still step on a ballfield with you guys anyway!

We now return you to your regular programming..:wave:

[mstaylor]

Nicely put blindumpire99.

[Aging_Arbiter]

LMAO!!! BUt at least you dont have to pay to get out of PA. Right th3? I'm just bustin, its a NJ thang with me. Don't take it personal. Back to point at hand, all ejections are reviewed by the board to see if the offenders services are still required.

[th3]

i actually spent the holiday weekend in your fine state and enjoyed it very much! have fun out there

[Umpire in Chief]

I bet blind umpire knows what GDYB means. I think its the longest word in the English language.

[Stan W.]

If we want to insult states, Let's make it worthwhile..

last time I looked Pennsylvania AND New Jersey fought for the enemy during "The Great Patriotic War Against the Terrorist Northern Aggressors Against the Peaceful Peoples of The South"....

I had my picture made by a group of enemy Yankee " friends" while we toured the Gettysburg battlefield years ago at the historic North Carolina 26th Regiment's staute. You know, the proud defenders of the Truth, Justice and the Confederate Way who advanced the farthest,and suffered the most casualties of the entire battle, while advancing into enemy territory...

(That reminds me of how I just missed being eligible for the Confedrate draft back then)

But I'd still step on a ballfield with you guys anyway!

We now return you to your regular programming..

As a proud decendant of 37 Confederate ancestors, including a GG grandfather in the 15th Alabama at Gettysburg.....I agree..........

[Umpire in Chief]

I actually had family on both sides.

[nlrjr]

I suppose everyone remembers their first. First car, first kiss. first ejection. Last season as a newbie, I had fone through the season without incident until the last game. The asst coach on the wrong end of the score all game was running his mouth along with the guy on the score-book. Gave them the usual warnings. At the end of the game as the kids are shaking hands, he yells " We've played 38 games this season and you are the worst ump".

Told him he was ejected from the grounds and sent my report to the State and his school.

Now the question- How do I handle him next year when I encounter him again- or do I address it with the head coach at the beginning of the game?? All answewrs form the all knowing and esteemed and experienced here is appreciated.

[mstaylor]

I suppose everyone remembers their first. First car, first kiss. first ejection. Last season as a newbie, I had fone through the season without incident until the last game. The asst coach on the wrong end of the score all game was running his mouth along with the guy on the score-book. Gave them the usual warnings. At the end of the game as the kids are shaking hands, he yells " We've played 38 games this season and you are the worst ump".

Told him he was ejected from the grounds and sent my report to the State and his school.

Now the question- How do I handle him next year when I encounter him again- or do I address it with the head coach at the beginning of the game?? All answewrs form the all knowing and esteemed and experienced here is appreciated.

Exactly like nothing happened. It is a clean slate, new game and in your case new season. We expect the coach to not harbor a grudge so we should expect it of ourselves.

I had a college game once where an appeal play went against the visitors. The manager stayed on my case the rest of the game. Not enough to get tossed but definitely there. When we were changing for me to take second plate we agreed it was going to be a long plate, that there was no way I was going to please this manager. We went to the plate meeting and was just as nice as could be and never said another word about the first game.

This is what you should be doing after any confrontation or ejection. Now if you have a manager that has a pattern of misbehavior then your leash may be shorter than for others but he still has to do something each new game, it can't be cumulative.

[nlrjr]

Thanks for advice- I 'll play them as I get them

[Umpire in Chief]

Michael is absolutely right we are the professionals and that requires to set it aside.

But, do keep it in your back pocket. By this I mean keep it in the back of your mind keep an eye out for similar behavior in future games. From here put your game management skills to the test and try to prevent it from happening again without referencing it to the coach. But don't be afraid to pull the trigger again if you have to.

[frenchblue]

Michael is absolutely right we are the professionals and that requires to set it aside.

But, do keep it in your back pocket. By this I mean keep it in the back of your mind keep an eye out for similar behavior in future games. From here put your game management skills to the test and try to prevent it from happening again without referencing it to the coach. But don't be afraid to pull the trigger again if you have to.

I'm pretty sure Warren is saying don't go looking for trouble. You do not at all want to go out looking to eject a coach/player. It doesn't serve any good looking for that stuff. It basically is fuel for the fire.

[mstaylor]

Warren is also correct. Everytime you have an ejection look at what lead up to it and see what you could have done game management wise to keep him. Many times the answer is nothing. If a player or manager just snaps on you and there is nothing you can do, then dump him. However, there are also many times where if you had shut something down earlier it may not have escalated. This includes managers chirping, players questioning pitches, pitchers plunking batters, hard slides at bases and players yakking at each other. All these things can be handled in such a way it may stop wihout further incident. Sometimes players and managers just can't keep themselves in the game.

Once someone takes an early exit, put it in your pocket but it still needs to be a clean slate.

[markdewdney]

My first...kinda a long story, but you'll appreciate the trip, believe me;

I'd been a player for 2 years, known for my sense of humour and pranks - then got cut in my 3rd year. I even appreciated the way the coach cut me (I knew it was coming);

"Dewdney, we're making you the third catcher." Having seen "Major League", I played along;

"Yeah, but you only carry two catc...oh, SH*#."

"Yeah....but hey, look, I got a way you can stay in baseball - AND earn some money!"

"YEAH? I'm in. Er...how?"

"You can be an ump! Great, eh?"

*shocked silence*

I kinda thought he was gonna "Jake Taylor" me and make me a coach. Wow...talk about culture shock.

Anyways, there I was, less than a week later, wearing my old catching gear under HUGE pants (from the local Sally Ann), a light-blue security-guard uniform top (that I'd ripped the epaulets and patches off and had a number crested on the sleeve - #54, "five-four" as in the hockey penalty "five for fighting" since I figured I would be)

...and was I right on the number. Third inning, forget the count, but I ring up former teammate Ted Giansis on a close pitch, and the yap begins.

"...horseSH*# hitter, too, and now we know why..." So Ted's gone.

"NOW YOU KNOW WHY WE CUT YOUR ASS," from the dugout.

This is where my Irish disposition swerved from amicable to a***hole in an instant. Had NEVER happened before, but here we go;

"THAT'S IT! YOU'RE F***KIN' GONE!!!"

I suddenly realized, as he was trying to get out of the extremely small dugout, that "Wow, you just threw out your old coach and present teacher. Not bright."

The argument was, apparently, freakin' legendary; I know it lasted a solid two or three minutes, and resulted in me running MANY laps in gym class over the next month or so.

The best part? A couple of days later, I get called into the office (a fairly routine occurrance for me).

There's Coach Greene, sitting there looking very nervous, alongside one of the OTHER team's parents.

The VP actually asked me for my version of events, and was pondering suspending Greene because the parent knew I went to the same school where Greenie was a teacher, and had complained that he was behaving in a threatening manner to one of his students.

I figured I could earn some brownie points here, and quickly pointed out that what's normal on a baseball field would shock a lot of "outsiders", and that I considered the incident a) just part of the game, an educational experience (believe it!) and c) closed, and the VP decided to settle for a verbal warning.

Funny, I never heard a "thank you" from Coach Greene...

Anyways, it was entertaining in retrospect, and I can't WAIT to see him at the upcoming reunion - this oughta be good.

Edited February 26, 2010 by markdewdney