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Except Joe Hardy opted out at the end and still achieved his goal. Really ??? I didn't know that. I left after Lola's last scene. My son is a student at Newhouse. Want me to get him to come here and do a 20 paragraph rant about your comment? Sure, if you want to take the risk of him writing 20 paragraghs about how his dad wouldn't know a joke if it bit him on the arse. You don't like "jokes" about umpires. Journalists don't like "jokes" about journalism. Or is it OK to insult someone else's profession? I guess you must think so because the officiating forums are full of insults of players and coaches. So if it's OK to insult someone else's profession it's OK for others to insult yours. Deal? Journalism, especially about politics, in this country is a joke. Thought that was common knowledge. Used to be a valued and respectable profession, but the "professionals" in the profession have ruined it for the most part. It's only a joke on Fox. Try reading a respectable source. Here we go...

Just as long as we can keep making jokes about lawyers. Even hookers make jokes about lawyers.

If DeMuth shouldn't be an MLB umpire because he missed that call, then Kozma shouldn't be an MLB shortstop for dropping such an easy toss. They both made errors - but at least DeMuth's can be corrected. Don't make the first boneheaded error and we never get to the second.

Thats very interesting to read.... Torre confirmed it last night during the game as well, but the crew just kind of converged, unsolicited by Demuth, doesn't that fly in the face that we're always told not to approach our partner's on a controversial call unless he asks, unless you signal him I guess that you "have some info" As a general rule that's entirely true, but in Game 1, inning 1 of the World Series, with every HD camera angle being covered and a call that big and that egregiously missed, it's the valid exception to the rule.

I guess I'm seeing different headlines, but I haven't seen story one that credited the win to the missed call or criticized the umpires for reversing the call.

They didn't quite run in, but they seemed to have converged pretty quickly, as in "Dude, it's the first inning of the first game - you blew it, get us off the cover of Deadspin and change it now!"

Exactly....I don't know if he rushed it or just assumed that it had to be on the exchange or what, but I think the ball being out caught him totally by surprise and he just reacted or something. Never saw the ball-glove at all.

Yep, pretty much! Typical Yahoo of late, pure filler.

Charges dropped, apologies issued... ************************************************** Charges Dropped: Covington Police Chief & Mayor Apologize to Arrested Referees See bio, contact info, and more articles from Vanessa Bolano 13 hours ago by Vanessa Bolano Weekend Anchor & Reporter There has been a new development in the arrest of two referees at a North Shore football game last week. Wednesday night we were the first to report charges would be refused and they have. “On behalf of the city of Covington I offer my sincere apology to Mr. Radcliffe and Mr. Gambino,†says Covington Mayor Mike Cooper. “We apologize from bottom of our hearts for the events that took place last Friday night. It should have been handled differently,†says Covington Police Chief Tim Lentz. The Mayor of Covington and their newly appointed Police Chief are now apologizing nearly one week after two referees were escorted off the field, put into the back of a police cruiser and arrested. It all happened in front of hundreds of fans attending the St. Paul’s home game versus rival Mandeville last Friday. Only WGNO cameras were rolling as the confrontation unfolded. Jim Radcliffe and Christopher Gambino, two referees with 20-plus years of experience, we’re facing criminal charges. The two had been booked with public intimidation. Now, newly appointed Covington Police Chief Tim Lentz, who has only been on the job for days, is saying what his officer did was wrong. “We spoke with District Attorney Reed and requested that the case and the charges against these two gentlemen be refused. He agreed with us that that’s the right thing to do,†says Chief Lentz. President of the Greater New Orleans Football Officials Association Eddie Allemore is pleased, but says much of the damage has already been done. “It’s quite an embarrassment, and their mug shots are still out there if you look at a lot of the articles they still have their mug shots up, and we hope it goes away,†says Allemore. Allemore says it’s up to his men to pursue legal action against Covington Police. Chief Lentz says he’s still unsure whether disciplinary action will be taken against the arresting officer. At this point everyone is just trying to put last Friday night behind them. “As an official you never want to see your name in the paper. I’ll be ready for that to get over with,†says Allemore. “At the end of the day the Mayor and I, the police department, we truly believe this was the right thing to do,†says Chief Lentz. Allmore originally wanted to keep Covington officers away from his referees. He says for Friday’s game at Covington High St. Tammany Deputies will still be proving on field security. St. Paul’s plays away so it is not an issue this week. In the future though he says eventually a plan will be hammered out. Allemore says it’ll take a bit of time for the two to once again create a trusting relationship. Read more: http://wgno.com/2013/10/17/charges-dropped-covington-police-chief-mayor-apologize-to-arrested-referees/#ixzz2i5T4HoOX

With replay looming, could 'neighborhood play' be a thing of the past? Jeff Passan By Jeff Passan 16 hours ago Yahoo Sports http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mlb--with-replay-looming--could--neighborhood-play--be-a-thing-of-the-past--220641926.html The "neighborhood play" is one of those things that makes sense only in baseball's vacuum of illogic. The rationale behind it goes something like this: Because runners slide hard into second base and can hurt fielders trying to turn the double play, the fielders are allowed to catch a throw in the neighborhood of the second-base bag without tagging it and still draw a force out. Never mind the attempted catcher decapitations at home plate continuing unabated. Safety for middle infielders' legs is sacrosanct. One of the more egregious neighborhood plays occurred in Game 4 of the ALCS on Wednesday, when Boston's Stephen Drew caught a Dustin Pedroia throw a full foot off the bag. If Drew was in the neighborhood of the base, Detroit is in the neighborhood of Los Angeles. It was that obvious, and it prompted a fair question from the masses. Will instant replay fix it? The answer is maybe. The officials on Major League Baseball's committee to determine replay rules have spent dozens of hours locked in a room arguing over the sort of minutiae replay advocates cannot fathom. The general sense coming out of those meetings is that while replay is in theory a great salve, there is genuine concern that it will fundamentally change baseball's pace to its detriment. Much of the caterwauling over replay comes from fans who savor long, clinical games. To add more time runs the risk of turning off those who already consider the game plodding. If MLB wants to call the play correctly – it would be odd to have replay for bad calls and accept that umpires let force plays stand with a foot off the base at second while they would never do that at first, third or home – there is a solution. It would necessitate a rule change in addition to the adoption of replay, one used in almost all lower levels of baseball. In college, it is called the "Force-Play-Slide Rule," and in the NCAA baseball rulebook, it reads as such: The intent of the force-play-slide rule is to ensure the safety of all players. This is a safety and an interference rule. Whether the defense could have completed the double play has no bearing on the applicability of this rule. This rule pertains to a force-play situation at any base, regardless of the number of outs. The rule draws a direct path between the baseline and the second-base bag, leaving middle infielders either side of the base on which to plant their feet. If the runner at all interferes with him, the umpire must call the runner out. Interference includes a number of possibilities, from a cross-body takeout slide to a slide with a leg high in the air to a rolling slide. Should a runner interfere, both he and the batter would be out. By giving a direct mandate to runners and discretion to umpires to call interference, MLB would make it clear that it expects middle infielders to have their feet on the second-base bag when turning double plays, thus opening the window for them to be replayable. Of course, this would necessitate the approval of players, which may be the toughest part were it to get the committee's stamp. The takeout slide at second base is a staple of baseball, evident in almost every game, and the force-play-slide rule, if not outlawing it, would at least endanger it. As the committee meets and hammers out what Instant Replay 1.0 will look like, the neighborhood play will come up – and, if they're smart, they'll look at the force-play-slide rule. Replay's goal should be simple: Get right everything it can get right. And when a player a full foot off the bag in a vital postseason game records an out, that is something worth righting.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, POPS!!! Wait, I'm not a new guy....never mind!

Maybe the referees were wrong - either by rule or by common sense - in demanding the cop move (if that's what happened), but no way that should rise to the level of a criminal offense. Sounds like a bully with a badge, strutting his inner Mussolini.

10/08/2013 – Commissioner’s Directive on Postgame Activity October 8, 2013 Athletic Department Blog Updates For those that may read only the first few lines, it is worth reiteration. THERE IS NO BAN OR PROHIBITION ON POSTGAME HANDSHAKES. Has not been considered, contemplated or reviewed as an option. Several sports have “traditions†regarding postgame handshakes, etc. by team members (both en masse and as individuals), but none of them have such action dictated by playing rules. While it is an obvious sign of sportsmanship and civility, many incidents have occurred both in Kentucky (more than two dozen in the last three years in Kentucky alone) and throughout the country, where fights and physical conflicts have broken out during these postgame handshakes. And this is not restricted to specific sports. In our state alone, incidents in soccer, football and volleyball have occurred this fall. Unfortunately, the adrenaline and effort required to participate in the sport sometimes seems to deplete the supply of judgement available to participants. And this can be particularly problematic when there is a lack of an appropriate level of adult supervision, or counterproductive actions by the adults involved with the team. After consultation with the Board of Control at its last meeting, the Commissioner is issuing the following directives to officials and recommendations to the schools and officials regarding post game in baseball, basketball, football, soccer, softball, volleyball and wrestling: Following the contests, officials are to quickly and efficiently leave the playing facility following all rules mandated duties and ensure that the rules book mandated jurisdiction ends promptly. There is no need for officials to secure the game balls, shake hands with the coaches or players, or stick around the playing area for any other reason. Officials have no role in what goes on in postgame, including handshakes, etc. after jurisdiction has ended. Officials also have NO role in administering this policy. Officials choosing to involve themselves in postgame activities will be penalized appropriately; Game management and the administration of the participating team(s) are solely responsible for what happens after the contest is concluded. It is prescribed that teams and individuals should not participate in organized post game handshake lines/ceremonies beyond that interaction that is required by the NFHS playing rules (i.e. the awarding of a bout winner in wrestling) and the individual unorchestrated actions by individual competitors UNLESS game management and the coaches and administration of the teams accept total responsibility to supervise the activity and to report to the KHSAA any incidents that occur; and The coaches and administration of the teams are responsible for the individual conduct of the members of the team following the contest and shall be held accountable for such. Henceforth, any incidents by an individual squad member (including coaches) or group of squad members that results in unsporting acts immediately following the contest will result in a penalty against the member school athletic program, and additional penalties against the individuals or schools as deemed appropriate following investigation. It is disappointing that this action has become necessary, but enough incidents have occurred both in our state and in others, that the necessity has arrived. DIRECT COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONER (4pm): “It is sad that so many have apparently chosen to read small participles of the note above, versus the entirety of the directive and reminder, so I feel the necessity to add specific comments. And admittedly, two totally related paragraphs were not immediately adjacent and that may have caused some people to stop reading at one point, and then not follow through with the rest of the post. While none of the content main material has changed, putting the lines together about both the basics and the option for schools to continue whatever activity provided it is properly supervised. Nothing about this directive is etched in stone as far as post game procedures. As the document states, the schools continue to have the option to have postgame handshakes as always, provided they are properly supervised. That was the first part of two main intentions. The first, was to reinforce the requirement for supervision. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, all involved in contests seem to be more aggressive immediately after the contests are concluded and winning with honor and dignity (and losing the same way) doesn’t seem to be being instilled across the board. Sometimes, these attitudes and lack of supervision have resulted in fights/altercations/incidents during postgame periods. In Kentucky alone, this has happened more than two dozen times in the last three years. So the directive to the member schools is simple. Don’t do it, UNLESS you can properly supervise it. And if you don’t supervise it (or if you do and problems occur) then you will be held accountable. Secondly, and just as critical, don’t expect the officials to police this time period. That has NEVER been the officials’ job at the high school level, and shouldn’t be now. It’s really that simple. Sportsmanship and civility remain hallmark values. It is my hope that all schools can provide the proper supervision and accountability to continue these types of activities. But if they can’t, then stop doing them.â€

Oh, absolutely, ESPECIALLY in 4 man when you don't have pickoff responsibilities at 1st or 3rd. No twisting to watch the throw from the catcher and possibly being in motion at the time of call, less likelihood of the runner's body screening you, etc.

I like this .... however,... Sox 4th run was on a missed call.... Yea...but you know NESN, the Booyah Network (ESPN), Deadspin, and others would conveniently forget that!

I'm just glad that dude didn't come around and score, 'cause we all know the wailing and gnashing of teeth that would occur if he did. Again, I'm perfectly fine with replay being there to 'fix' this, let Joe throw the flag and move on instead of trotting out there to cry like a clown. And it's in the umpire's enlightened self-interest as well - fix it, move on, forget about it instead of it being the summer meme of how much these guys suck.

That's a pretty intense game for a newbie...

I've seen this with other umpires. What's your reason for doing this? I do it as well...I just casually stand up for a called strike, so I have more time and use the point.

Not me personally but a trusted partner, not prone to hyperbole or exaggeration, had nothing good to say about Wilson. He had an F/X, just over a year old, which didn't have a bent mask but a foul ball that broke one of those (useless, IMO) pistons on the side that attaches the mask to the helmet. Not only would Wilson not help him at all with replacement, they wouldn't even SELL him a new part. It was new mask or nothing. They were unhelpful, slow to respond, and a general pain. On the other hand, my dealings with All-Star have been the EXACT opposite, highly recommended.

with my right hand, of course!

I imagine there'll have to be some kind of prescribed award, like umpire or catcher's interference. Award the B/R 1B and others move up if forced or 1 base for everyone. Otherwise you're in the morass of where would everyone have gone. Then there's the deep line drive that's ruled foul but lo and behold hits the chalk in the corner. A sure double IF it had been called fair, but now what? It's gonna be interesting.

I don't have much beef with the call, no definitive angle and the lead foot certainly looks like it's out of the box completely. As to the challenge, I don't think the pitcher should be able to come back in, the DC should be aware of the possibility of challenge. Similarly, the pitching change isn't a baseball play per se so it shouldn't negate the challenge either.

Phenomenal call on the 1st, only that last angle from centerfield showed it conclusively as a tag. On the 2nd, agree it's a great call - but why did he keep rotating to 1BLX? Seems like 3BLX was perfect, just stay stationary there. Hindsight, of course, but sure seems like there's a lot more movement at the time of call lately.

It's freaking September, dude....what a brain camp.

I think he got the first one right....the 2nd? Well, that's what instant replay will fix next year!