NFHS 8.4.2c on nothing

[BaseBlue]

We're having a discussion as to whether this is just HS Varsity baseball or possible illegal contact for not avoiding the fielder (8.4.2c).  Ball was hit to short RF with a play at the plate; not considering MC, but if it's nothing, what happens the next time the contact could get rougher?  I realize this isn't 10U kids, but to add to the play- what if another runner followed this runner and scores too because the ball was knocked out by the runner running into the tag?  F2 had the ball waiting to make the tag, he could have even blocked the plate.  The runner is expected to give up, legally slide, somehow avoid?  Or do what he did.

Thanks!

[Replacematt]

32 minutes ago, BaseBlue said:

We're having a discussion as to whether this is just HS Varsity baseball or possible illegal contact for not avoiding the fielder (8.4.2c).  Ball was hit to short RF with a play at the plate; not considering MC, but if it's nothing, what happens the next time the contact could get rougher?  I realize this isn't 10U kids, but to add to the play- what if another runner followed this runner and scores too because the ball was knocked out by the runner running into the tag?  F2 had the ball waiting to make the tag, he could have even blocked the plate.  The runner is expected to give up, legally slide, somehow avoid?  Or do what he did.

Thanks!

I don't see anything wrong here. It was a footrace and R3 slowed down and tried to go around F2. The contact that knocked the ball loose was a tag attempt, not a collision. 

[beerguy55]

 

15 hours ago, BaseBlue said:

The runner is expected to give up, legally slide, somehow avoid? 

Looks to me the runner IS trying to avoid - he's still allowed to try to score.  He didn't raise his arms or even brace himself in any way.

If I'm defense's coach I'm not arguing with Blue, I'm telling my F2 to suck less.

[noumpere]

15 hours ago, BaseBlue said:

The runner is expected to give up, legally slide, somehow avoid?  Or do what he did.

Thanks!

Is it “….avoid” or is it “attempt to avoid”? 

[MadMax]

1 hour ago, beerguy55 said:

If I'm defense's coach I'm not arguing with Blue, I'm telling my F2 to suck less.

But you’re a rare – or, perhaps, rarely encountered – sort of coach. 

Most have this “gotta stick up for my players!” mentality, and if the umpires ain’t gonna, then they’re allowing the other team to “get away with it” (whatever the perceived infraction).