R3 is called out at home for a collision, but not ejected

[Guest BigVic]

R3 is called out at home for a collision, but he was not ejected.

Play continues with several batters and finally a third out.

When the players take the field the coach is told by the plate umpire that the catcher (the previously mentioned R3) is ejected for the previous collision.

Can an ejected be applied for something that was done previously, even though no indication of the ejection was made by the plate umpire?

Thank you,

[beerguy55]

Is the sky blue if nobody says it's blue?

That there was no indication, or nobody saw the indication,  isn't really relevant.  Maybe he did eject the player and nobody noticed/realized it...ie, when the ump said you're out of here he really meant  it.

Or, ump realized the player should have been ejected and corrected his mistake...it would be different if he had played a couple of more innings, but he was removed before he had another offensive or defensive play.  

 

[maven]

13 hours ago, Guest BigVic said:

Can an ejected be applied for something that was done previously

Ejection should always be applied for something done previously. It would not be right to eject someone for something they haven't done yet.

If a rule makes ejection automatic for something like this, the umpire might reasonably assume that the coach would know that his player was ejected without make a big show of it.

[Replacematt]

59 minutes ago, maven said:

If a rule makes ejection automatic for something like this, the umpire might reasonably assume that the coach would know that his player was ejected without make a big show of it.

However, an umpire should ensure that the HC knows, even without making a show. I've done that (I can't remember what happened, but it didn't involve action with the opposing team.) I walked over, told them that by rule, the player was ejected, and announced the sub. Had it been something involving MC or USC or the like, I definitely would have made a show to ensure the opponents knew it was handled and not to retaliate.

Now for the question, my first hunch is if the penalty for an infraction is automatically ejection, then I would say that it's never too late to correct that. Where we will run into issues is if there was gameplay affected by the player remaining in the game for that period. With that, my second hunch is that it could be treated as any other rules miss, and that it's NOT correctable after it happens. So, in short, I dunno.

[Guest David]

It's my understanding that that you can't be called out in little league for a collision.  However you can be ejected. 

[LC Ump]

Little League Rule 7.08(1)(a)(3) - Any runner is out when "the runner does not slide or attempt to get around a fielder who has the ball and is waiting to make the tag..."

It's not clear from the OP whether the runner collided with the catcher waiting to make a tag but if that was the case (and it sounds like it was), then the runner was correctly called out.

An ejection for a collision is not automatic by rule in LL (there's no MC rule as in NFHS) but it could result from such a play under LL Rule 9.01(d) - "Each umpire has the authority to disqualify any player...for unsportsmanlike conduct..."

So yes, in LL you can be called out for a collision, and you can be ejected for causing one.