Legal windup?

[Tksjewelry]

Obr,  had a kid who has never pitched before doing a windup I've never seen and I'm not sure if it's legal. My instinct is that it's not.

On the rubber, moves his free foot first forward like he's in the stretch. The pivot foot plants along the rubber, then his pitching motion begins. It's like he's moving from the windup to the stretch. Is this legal?

[Jimurray]

The free foot motion might be preliminary to his actual start of the windup. OBR pitchers can start in what looks like a set and windup. A completely sideways pitcher would have to declare with runners. What did he violate in the windup rule?

[Tksjewelry]

I'm not sure he broke any windup rule, it may be one of those things that just because it's odd doesn't make it illegal. Both coaches asked about it, opposing coach wasn't asking for a balk but was curious and the other wanted to teach his pitcher correctly. I'll see both coaches on friday and wanted to give them a definitive answer. As I told them during the game, its a weird motion but hes delivering the pitch so i went with a no call during the game until I know for sure otherwise.

[maven]

It sounds like a start/stop balk to me. If he appears to "stretch" and then stops before beginning his (windup) motion to pitch, that's a balk/illegal pitch.

There is no "stretch" in the windup.

[noumpere]

28 minutes ago, maven said:

It sounds like a start/stop balk to me. If he appears to "stretch" and then stops before beginning his (windup) motion to pitch, that's a balk/illegal pitch.

There is no "stretch" in the windup.

I'm not sure he actually "stretched / set / stopped."  AS I read the OP, it's just that the free foot step was forward, as opposed to sideways or backwards, as F1 twisted the pivot foot (and maybe part of the torso) sideways to continue the motion.

Perfectly legal under OBR; may be technically illegal under FED, but it's never enforced (here). 

However, because what I am describing is not that uncommon and the OP has never seen it, maybe I am misreading what happened.

[Jimurray]

57 minutes ago, maven said:

It sounds like a start/stop balk to me. If he appears to "stretch" and then stops before beginning his (windup) motion to pitch, that's a balk/illegal pitch.

There is no "stretch" in the windup.

With no runners there is no start stop illegal pitch in OBR but if the pitcher was violating something it should be corrected. Need video of @Tksjewelry re enacting the motion

[maven]

55 minutes ago, noumpere said:

AS I read the OP, it's just that the free foot step was forward, as opposed to sideways or backwards, as F1 twisted the pivot foot (and maybe part of the torso) sideways to continue the motion.

That's what I was thinking at first, but she says, "The pivot foot plants along the rubber, then his pitching motion begins." That makes it sound like start/stop to me, though of course she could mean something non-standard by 'pitching motion'.