First Fan Ejection

[JHSump]

Select --- as in "select obscenities are utilized" apparently.
 

[jpk015]

On 7/15/2016 at 3:54 PM, bbrages said:

Don't know if the OP is still around or not, but my 10u house team had a game this week that was on the field next to a 9u select team.

I don't know if this was the same 9u select team that the original poster was discussing, but the coaches and fans of one of the teams in this 9u select game (Sting - Brannam) were totally out of control. Very loud and apparently were using much obscenities. I was focused on our game, so I didn't know what was going on, although I could hear there was a BIG ruckus.

Our opposing coach (10u house) and several of his team's parents were upset enough about having to listen to this display that they emailed the board members about it.

I am hopeful that this team will be banned from the facility that this incident will lead our league to encourage officials to shut things down much more quickly.

That was not the team I was describing (surprisingly) but I have dealt with them previously and have heard many ejection stories regarding them.

[jpk015]

As an update, I worked this coach's team again recently. I ended up tossing his assistant after he began arguing (about warmup pitch amount, of all things) and began to get personal. 

[tpatience]

2 hours ago, jpk015 said:

As an update, I worked this coach's team again recently. I ended up tossing his assistant after he began arguing (about warmup pitch amount, of all things) and began to get personal. 

Really? He got ejected over warmup pitch amount? I think that guy needs to go home and re-think his life!

[Stk004]

18 minutes ago, tpatience said:

Really? He got ejected over warmup pitch amount? I think that guy needs to go home and re-think his life!

I've had coaches get pretty animated about this in my local LL. Luckily our UIC was on hand and explained the rule to the coach while we kept the game moving. 

[jpk015]

18 hours ago, tpatience said:

Really? He got ejected over warmup pitch amount? I think that guy needs to go home and re-think his life!

The allotted amount of warmups for a new pitcher is 7 in my league. The pitcher had taken his 7 throws, but the coach informed me that the catcher was not ready to proceed, to which I replied that I would allot the pitcher one extra pitch thrown to his catcher. At that point, the coach said that one pitch to the catcher was not enough, to which I replied that I was already being lenient by giving an extra pitch once the catcher was ready. The coach continued to argue about this (delaying the game even further) and began to get personal. After a couple personal insults, I ejected him. 

[MPLSMatt]

@jkp015 Honestly, I think that that's too much talk over something so trivial.   This guys is trying to bully you and it doesn't warrant a long explanation.   Just a simple, "coach, that's the ruling - now lets play ball."  Anything more is a warning or ejection.  I'd also call the head coach out and remind him that if that assistant speaks to you again, he'll be ejected - then follow through as needed. 

This is more rope than some would give, but in kiddie ball, these assistants are often unaware that they cannot speak to an umpire (and are allowed to do so all season by inexperienced umpires)  so if you toss right off the bat, you may be a redass. 

As an aside, this is an absolute power play by a Daddy coach, and its ridiculously common at these younger ages.   I went back and did a few 11U games for the first time in years, and had coaches tell me that I "have to enforce" the number of people out of their dugout between innings (he said the rule book says 4 - it doesn't), a prohibition on the "football pitch" (it doesn't), and try to convince me that "any pitcher may reenter the pitching position" really meant "one pitcher" may reenter - all with this bullying, tough guy attitude.  Of course, I knew the rules and shut them down in all 3 situations but I'm sure that younger umpires get pushed around by the BS.   Good job not allowing that to happen.  

 

Also, it gets better as you get to older kids. 

 

 

[blue23ll]

I always like those warm up pitch arguments. The easiest thing for me to do is fall back on the 'minute' between innings thing. Hey coach, you spent 30 seconds in a huddle and your catcher took 10 seconds to get out here. It's your choice you can talk to your team or they can warm up, your choice.

[BigUmpire]

On 5/9/2016 at 5:29 PM, grayhawk said:

"We promote what we permit"

Another umpire " Bumper sticker"