Fed Rule 9-1 c&d

[Curtis Kent]

Fed rule 9-1 says A run is not scored if the runner advances to home plate during action in which the third out is made as follows:

C. By a preceding runner who is declared out upon appeal because he failed to touch one of the bases or left a base too soon on a caught fly ball or;

D. When a third out is declared during a play resulting from a valid defensive appeal which results in a force out 

It seems to me that C and D are the same thing except C opens it up to say that any runner ruled out on appeal (even if it does not result in a force play) negates a run scored during the playing action. Is this correct?

[grayhawk]

No. If a following runner is out on appeal, then it's a time play and the run would score if he touched the plate before the following runner is successfully appealed.

[Kevin_K]

5 hours ago, Curtis Kent said:

Fed rule 9-1 says A run is not scored if the runner advances to home plate during action in which the third out is made as follows:

C. By a preceding runner who is declared out upon appeal because he failed to touch one of the bases or left a base too soon on a caught fly ball or;

D. When a third out is declared during a play resulting from a valid defensive appeal which results in a force out 

It seems to me that C and D are the same thing except C opens it up to say that any runner ruled out on appeal (even if it does not result in a force play) negates a run scored during the playing action. Is this correct?

The key word is preceding.

[maven]

The 2 provisions could overlap, in a case where the missed base appeal in C was a force play, as mentioned in D.

It would not be the same in cases where a preceding runner missed a base to which he was not forced, or if the appeal play is a retouch appeal, which cannot possibly be a force play. C covers these plays, but D does not.

D also disallows the run in case any missed base appeal for the third out is a force out, not only those appealing a preceding runner's infraction. D covers this play, but C does not.

[Curtis Kent]

I see it now. the word preceding wasn't registering in my mind for some reason