Enforcement

[renegadewolf]

OBR, R2 0 outs 1 ball 2 strike.  F1 in stretch and fails to come to a pause at set, balk called as the pitcher releases the ball and the batter is hit by the pitch (complete with an attempt to move out of the way of the ball). Can we enforce both the balk and HBP in this case?  I know that the balk rule states that all runners need to advance at least one base, which doesn't happen in this situation in order to ignore the balk, so that doesn't seem like an option.  When the batter is hbp we have a dead ball situation and according to the rules the batter is entitled to first base without liability to be put out, so it seems like this aught to be enforced as well.  I'm just trying to make some sense of what to call in this situation.  Just the balk, just the hbp or both.  Perhaps I am just having a hard time thinking that I should enforce the balk only and basically tell the batter tough luck and the count is now 2-2.

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[Gfoley4]

yep. I believe this topic was just discussed on another thread only in that case it was a walk. If there is R1 or R1/R2 or loaded the runner can go to first since every runner would advance. But since R2 would not advance on the HBP it's a tough luck ball for the batter. 

[maven]

Perhaps I am just having a hard time thinking that I should enforce the balk only and basically tell the batter tough luck and the count is now 2-2.

Don't tell the batter tough luck, tell him he gets a chance for a sac fly.

No provision in any rule code to enforce both a balk and HBP.

[noumpere]

basically tell the batter tough luck and the count is now 2-2.

 

You won't have to tell the batter that ...

 

Because the count remain 1-2. 

 

Edited July 13, 2015 by noumpere

[renegadewolf]

You won't have to tell the batter that ...

 

Because the count remain 1-2. 

 

indeed!  I feel much better now!!  Thank for confrming my good people.