Restricted to the dugout

[ricka56]

I know Fed has the restrict to the dugout option, but I have never used it nor seen it used. Today, in a USSSA U13 AA, 3BC and HC (in 3b side dugout), decided that were going to have a pissing contest. It disrupted the game, and my partner restricted both coaches to their dugouts by the time I (BU in A) got there. In between innings, I told my partner that I was going to be interested to see if this worked or we were just delaying the inevitable EJ(s). But it did work !!! We had talked in between innings about what we were and were not going to allow. We let them call pitches from the front of the dugout, let one of them warm-up a F1 in the bullpen (in live-ball territory behind the dugout), they came onto the field in between innings to talk to a scorekeeper, but neither my partner or I over-reacted to any of that. They stayed separated and the game completed without any further disruption. Maybe it was an aberration, but chalk one up for a successful dual HC restriction.  

[ElkOil]

Sounds like a good job to me.  Well done!  It seems comical to me that there is a mechanism built into the rules that allows us to treat coaches like scolded children.

[ricka56]

Sounds like a good job to me.  Well done!  It seems comical to me that there is a mechanism built into the rules that allows us to treat coaches like scolded children.

​Funny ...after the game and we got away with the restrictions, that was the same analogy we came up with...sending the children to the corner.

[Platejob29]

Who were you working with Rick?

[maven]

Like a technical foul in basketball that makes the HC sit down, restriction does tend to cool coaches off — not least because they have tangible evidence that they're on thin ice.

Good call.

[Specks]

It worked out for you.

My experience has been youth coached don't know what restriction really means or the benefit to them and me (or I, don't bust my chops over my english). I quit using it after the 2nd time I tried it, both times resulted in EJ during the same argument (can you have an argument if only 1 party is doing all the arguing?).

[MObetterBlue]

Does USSSA provide that as an option?

[ricka56]

Does USSSA provide that as an option?

​USSSA doesn't provide umpires their game management tools...you have to bring your own. If a coach insisted that I didn't have the authority to restrict him to the dugout, he could take that win with him to the parking lot.

[Tksjewelry]

Last year, being my rookie year, I didn't know the official term "restricted". Working a TC 12u (Fed rules) game I grounded two coaches to their dugouts, and used the term "grounded" which I'm sure didn't help my professional image that day. It worked, but it was astounding that it did. 

[constable]

Like a technical foul in basketball that makes the HC sit down, restriction does tend to cool coaches off — not least because they have tangible evidence that they're on thin ice.

Good call.

Only in high school rules are coaches required to sit.  I  think a technical foul isn't the best comparison because there are stiffer penalties than the coach having to sit.... Depending on the rule set 1 or 2 points and possibly loss of possession are a much harsher penalty then making mouth piece sit for the game.

 

That being said, I eject far more in baseball then basketball because basketball gives me a method to deal with poor behaviour that warrants attention but many not an ejection. Even if I had the option to restrict in my rule set, I can't imagine ever using it.

[DVA7130]

Does USSSA provide that as an option?

It is listed in the GA USSSA rule set.