"I knew y'all were homers when we saw y'all walk out here!"

[jpperez14]

We walk out to start the beginning of bracket play, we are running a 3-man crew (ran 2 in pool games) and the coach for the HT(which is home team to the our association) during plate meeting, says I've known the PU since he called my games when I was playing... the VT coach begins with the "oh no, y'all are homers?" we explained to him no we don't operate that way, we don't choose sides, we are here to officiate a baseball game. (Stupid HTC to making that comment) He goes on, just kidding, I know y'all wouldn't do that.

Top of the 7th, VT 1 - HT 3, Bases Loaded, 1 out.

Ground ball to F5, who then touches 3rd, and throws across to 1st and ball gets by F3. F3 picks up the ball and throws to F2 in attempt to retire R2. F2 drops the ball and PU calls R2 safe. F2 picks up the ball and throws to F4, who then tags BR attempting to advance, resulting in the 3rd out. Now the fun part. The VT believes the score is 3-3, they proceed onto the field to start warming up. HT believes the score is 3-2 and start to line up to shake hands. U2 calls us all together to discuss what we have. We go through the situation discuss every play and then decide the score is 3-3. We again stop and try to figure out what we are missing through this whole ordeal. We get the 'official scorebook' and begin to go through it all play by play. We then realize that VT scored R2, when he slid at home and F2 drops the ball, except R2 was out on the force @‌ 3rd. We then came to the conclusion that R1 had not scored before BR was tagged at 2nd, resulting in 3-2 game over. As soon as we turn to tell the VTC he starts yelling, "y'all are homers! I knew it when we walked on the field and saw 3 of y'all that it would be this way!!" I tried to get the coach to call down and let me explain what we have and why we have it, he walked off and didn't want to hear it. Afterwards, I walk towards the VT dugout to retrieve my water bottles, the VTAC stops me and politely ask for an explanation of what happened and why we ruled it that way. I went play by play, through the whole scenario with the coaches, explaining and verifying with them that they understand what happened. After explaining the assistant coaches goes, "okay that makes sense, we all counted the wrong run." We walked off without further issues.  

Always learning something new..

[BRUMP]

dumbass comment by the HTHC but I'm tossing the VTHC as soon as he makes that homer comment during the game. I have 0 tolerance for that

[jpperez14]

dumbass comment by the HTHC but I'm tossing the VTHC as soon as he makes that homer comment during the game. I have 0 tolerance for that

​It was the end of the game and they were knocked out of the tourney with that loss.

[renegadewolf]

Here in Ontario, each local association belongs to an governing body called Baseball Ontario, and Baseball Ontario sanctions every tournament in the province.  When we have an ejection such as yours, post game after a knock out the ejection report is still forwarded to Baseball Ontario who will then enforce the suspension(s) at the next Baseball Ontario sanctioned tournament (aka the next tournament they play in the province).  It's nice to know that a coach or player can't just "get away" with some BS after they are all butt hurt from being knocked out.

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[Majordave]

Here.....in 'Merica we are free to be as much of a big ole asshole as we want to be in multiple locations with minimal fear of repression or repercussions.

Hahaha!

[ricka56]

Here.....in 'Merica we are free to be as much of a big ole asshole as we want to be in multiple locations with minimal fear of repression or repercussions.

Hahaha!

​Evidence by the fact that MajorDave still get assignments...haw

[cyclone]

​It was the end of the game and they were knocked out of the tourney with that loss.

​That doesn't make it an open season on umpires...

Eject and make sure to file a report..

[jpperez14]

​That doesn't make it an open season on umpires...

Eject and make sure to file a report..

We don't ejection reports for our association or for pony baseball  

[cyclone]

We don't ejection reports for our association or for pony baseball  

​That's a problem.  How does the BOD know that the coach was ejected?  How are suspensions enforced?

[jpperez14]

Typically we have had very few ejection thru out the year. If there is an ejection at all we either have a director/board member present at the fields, we inform our assigner, or typically everyone knows about it before the end of the night. Normal suspensions are 1+1 unless umpire request more. If more is requested, the board will get together with a witness from the both teams, the offender, and the umpire and come to judge the suspension length.

 

The one ejection I had this weekend, the director is informed, because the next tourney they are in is in another location the director of that tourney will be informed by me and the previous director to enforce suspension because it's under pony baseball. 

 

The only other ejection I have had where more than one game was requested was when a parent submit a complaint against an opposing coach, resulting in me speaking with the board and explaining why and how many games the coach is suspensed. 

[HokieUmp]

Typically we have had very few ejection thru out the year. If there is an ejection at all we either have a director/board member present at the fields, we inform our assigner, or typically everyone knows about it before the end of the night. Normal suspensions are 1+1 unless umpire request more. If more is requested, the board will get together with a witness from the both teams, the offender, and the umpire and come to judge the suspension length.

The one ejection I had this weekend, the director is informed, because the next tourney they are in is in another location the director of that tourney will be informed by me and the previous director to enforce suspension because it's under pony baseball. 

The only other ejection I have had where more than one game was requested was when a parent submit a complaint against an opposing coach, resulting in me speaking with the board and explaining why and how many games the coach is suspensed. 

​Not sure not having written reports is a good idea.  Especially with the issue in the second paragraph.  Without written documentation, there's going to be a time where a coach tries to beat a suspension and/or convinces someone at the next tournament to ignore or otherwise overlook a penalty.  Or better still, you'll get the "jailhouse lawyer" type, and without written evidence, you're left with nothing to corroborate, and it's down to "he said, he said."

[cyclone]

. If there is an ejection at all we either have a director/board member present at the fields, we inform our assigner, or typically everyone knows about it before the end of the night. Normal suspensions are 1+1 unless umpire request more. If more is requested, the board will get together with a witness from the both teams, the offender, and the umpire and come to judge the suspension length.

​Wow, it makes it sound like you are on trial along with the coach.  I'm not expected to show up at the board meetings after an EJ.  I simply write a report and send it off to the board, the DA and my assigner..Done deal.  I expect the penalties as each association mandates.  If they add to that, don't know, don't care..But I have always been backed up by the boards..  Time to move on when a board doesn't back an umpire.

Edited July 8, 2015 by cyclone