running lane violation

[scblcommish]

Another question. Today my son bunted for a base hit. A quality throw was made but F3 didn't handle it and BR was called safe. However, He was totally out of the running lane and to the field side. I mentioned that he could get called for that and another coach said, "No, he'd have to be hit by the ball." 

Pretty sure his comment is pure bull-hockey and may be from OBR, but not Fed. 

What say the panel?

[maven]

Under FED, the standard is lower for calling running lane INT: a "quality throw" is not required, though some kind of throw or other is.

For OBR, it must be a "quality throw," which is one that would otherwise have retired the BR. One way to have a quality throw is for the BR to be plunked, but that's not the only way.

[mstaylor]

To bolster your case, say the throw was to the F3 but he can't glove it because the BR was blocking his view, he gets a glove on it but it bounces off. That would be a running lane violation. Most coaches teach to hit the runner, it makes the call easy for the umpire, the problem is that is why Fed doesn't require a quality throw, they want to avoid catchers plunking runners.

[scblcommish]

To bolster your case, say the throw was to the F3 but he can't glove it because the BR was blocking his view, he gets a glove on it but it bounces off. That would be a running lane violation. Most coaches teach to hit the runner, it makes the call easy for the umpire, the problem is that is why Fed doesn't require a quality throw, they want to avoid catchers plunking runners.

 

Exactly, and thank you. Since the rules are there to make sure neither the defense or the offense has an advantage, it simply makes sense that the runner knows where he is "safe" to run and the fielder knows where it is safe to throw. This other coach may never have seen an umpire make this call. That does not relieve him of the responsibility of teaching players where it is legal to run and where it is not because some umpire in a future game will make that call on his player. 

[BT_Blue]

Had a Varsity level coach tell one of umpires this year "he can't be called for interference, he was in fair territory the whole time" regarding one of his batters being called for a runner's lane infraction.

[maven]

Had a Varsity level coach tell one of umpires this year "he can't be called for interference, he was in fair territory the whole time" regarding one of his batters being called for a runner's lane infraction.

 

[BT_Blue]

Had a Varsity level coach tell one of umpires this year "he can't be called for interference, he was in fair territory the whole time" regarding one of his batters being called for a runner's lane infraction.

Right? When we heard about that our first reaction was "you're right..."

[johnnyg08]

Had a Varsity level coach tell one of umpires this year "he can't be called for interference, he was in fair territory the whole time" regarding one of his batters being called for a runner's lane infraction.

 

 

I just hope it wasn't an umpire who told him that.

[BT_Blue]

No, this is one of those coaches that really has no clue. Seems like a nice guy and means well ... but yeh....