Balk?

[mstaylor]

And that honesty is great. Being here shows you are interested in learning. Game awareness is very important and can help you stay out of some stupid situations simply by making you aware of what they are likely to do. Always remember the learning never stops. 

[CentralOhioUmp30]

If you were a runner on 1st, 3 steps out, leaning towards second with a green light on and this happened how would you react?

Unless I saw his feet make any movement, I'd probably still be standing there waiting until I did see movement.

[BalkHawk]

If you were a runner on 1st, 3 steps out, leaning towards second with a green light on and this happened how would you react?

I would grow a big grin.

[spiritump]

 

For the record, both my partner and I had nothing.

 

I had never seen it before, so it did make me hesitate.

 

both you and your partner need to look up pitcher violations

 

You seem like a class act, Spirit.  you s

you said both you and your partner missed the call--all I said was to look into the rule book--if you are going to be a umpire get some thiker skin

[Thunderheads]

noumpere is 100% correct, and the OP is definitely a balk in OBR.  The language underlined below is new for 2013:

 

 

8.05(k): The pitcher, while touching his plate, accidentally or intentionally has the ball slip or fall out of his hand or glove

 

For Fed, it's not as clear:

 

6-2-4a: any feinting toward the batter or first base, or any dropping of the ball (even though accidental) and the ball does not cross the foul line

Based on the last part, I'd say this makes the FED rule different than the updated OBR 8.05(k).

 

However, that said, .... I can't see anyone really barking if you balked a pitcher in this situation (OP) and using 'start/stop-hand separating'  (sorry, I didn't cite)

[Ring 'em Up]

 

noumpere is 100% correct, and the OP is definitely a balk in OBR.  The language underlined below is new for 2013:

 

 

8.05(k): The pitcher, while touching his plate, accidentally or intentionally has the ball slip or fall out of his hand or glove

 

For Fed, it's not as clear:

 

6-2-4a: any feinting toward the batter or first base, or any dropping of the ball (even though accidental) and the ball does not cross the foul line

Based on the last part, I'd say this makes the FED rule different than the updated OBR 8.05(k).

 

However, that said, .... I can't see anyone really barking if you balked a pitcher in this situation (OP) and using 'start/stop-hand separating'  (sorry, I didn't cite)

 

i've got a BALK.. 

 

6-2-4a specifially states "any dropping of the ball"  &, the OP, states "the ball pops out of the glove and then he catches it" 

 

Lets take a look at this..  if the ball popped out of the glove, gravity would take effect and the ball would "drop"  and it doesn't matter how far the ball drops.. 1/10th of an inch, or 3 feet.. Period.  

 

Where's the confusion?

 

ron-

[UmpJM]

Ron,

 

What if the ball popped "up" out of the glove?

 

JM

[Ring 'em Up]

Ron,

 

What if the ball popped "up" out of the glove?

 

JM

 

 

Gawd.. i just love this place..!

 

FED 6.3 sentence 4 states: he shall go to the set position without interruption and in one continuous motion.

 

i've got a feeling that F1 is gonna jerk his non-gloved hand to catch that ball, or that the continuous motion will be averted.

 

ron-

[UmpJM]

Could...might not....

 

JM

[CricketChapman]

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=13955023&c_id=mlb

Similar play from a couple years ago...It's nearly impossible for this to happen and maintain a "continuous" motion.

[BalkHawk]

Nearly impossible is not the same as impossible.

In the (perfect for this discussion) video, the pitcher failed to maintain a continuous motion.

[Pete Peterson Sr]

Jeff,

 

Actually it's a very old word - derived from the Latin via Middle English.

 

As always, I blame the Jesuits.

 

JM

 

 

 Because they are not here to defend themselves, lol.....