Video: Abandonment?

[noumpere]

True if hes still avoiding a tag (and I dont remember the video to know or not). Its clearly not passing.

[johnnyg08]

I believe out of his basepath to avoid the tag is more relevant than abandonment. Just running past the bag in and of itself does not mean abandonment IMO.

I agree, but it appeared that Reyburn did wait until he turned to the dugout to call him out unless it was just a coincidence, but it did seem pretty intentional.

[Haid D' Salaami]

Some things to think about: Which comes first, 7.08(a)(2) [abandonment], 7.08(i) [reverse order travesty], or 7.08(h) [passing a preceding runner before such runner is out]?

Which of the following is true in this situation, wherein ">" signifies "is in front of/has passed" and "<" signifies "is behind": R2<R3, R2=R3 or R2>R3? Hint: Two of the three occur, but not all three.

I won't comment further at this time, as we've posted a Case Play regarding this precise video.

Sorry gil this is not 7.08a2 the runner is going back to base...not making a travesty.. what if R2 hadnt gone back.

[Haid D' Salaami]

Do we have a consensus on abandonment here?

Seems like that is the pattern.

I believe out of his basepath to avoid the tag is more relevant than abandonment. Just running past the bag in and of itself does not mean abandonment IMO.

I agree some what.... the runner didn't go more than 3 feet to avoid the tag.. he just ran, is a straight line back to and past 3rd.. so his basepath is still good...

[UmpTTS43]

I believe out of his basepath to avoid the tag is more relevant than abandonment. Just running past the bag in and of itself does not mean abandonment IMO.

I agree, but it appeared that Reyburn did wait until he turned to the dugout to call him out unless it was just a coincidence, but it did seem pretty intentional.

Exactly. It looks like he banged him when he passed the bag avoiding the tag attempt being made on him.

[UmpTTS43]

Do we have a consensus on abandonment here?

Seems like that is the pattern.

I believe out of his basepath to avoid the tag is more relevant than abandonment. Just running past the bag in and of itself does not mean abandonment IMO.

I agree some what.... the runner didn't go more than 3 feet to avoid the tag.. he just ran, is a straight line back to and past 3rd.. so his basepath is still good...

Really? Only if he rounds and atempts to advance to a base. Would you allow a runner to be beyond his base, in a straight line and expect to be chased? His basepath is base to base.