FED version of "what happens" from Pro section

[dumbdumb]

OK, so in FED, if we have the play where everyone agrees that the runner is both clearly safe at the bag and clearly interferes, you penalize the safe runner with an out just for the interference itself and then you also call the BR out going to first for the interference by the runner at second. 2 outs, right?

Could somebody go back over and tell me the ruling in OBR that I posted.

because

If OBR only rules the BR out on the back end, does the runner who interfered have to go back to 1st base since runners cannot advance on a play with an interference call?

[noumpere]

This is pretty clear cut. A runner has to slide directly into the base in an attempt to break up a DP. He cannot slide to either side during his attempt, perform a "pop up" slide, or slide past the bag. Any of these acts are considered an illegal slide and you can get 2 outs in the instance, regardless of what happens on the back end of the DP.

The pop up requires contact and the sliding through the base requires contact or altering the play so these are not automatically illegal slides in HS.

[mstaylor]

Trout:

The Fed book is very clear about directly to the base on a force. If the runner slides at the base with one foot and contacts the fielder with other, not in line, that's interference. Over sliding or popping up is not illegal in itself. As noumpire says, there has to be contact to make it illegal. Again you said that if the BU doesn't call it, it didn't happen. Not true, often the PU makes this call.

Originally you said if he could reach the base he was OK, absolutely untrue in Fed. You said it was your judgement as the umpire but with a FPSR violation, there is no judgement. If the runner violates the rule, he's out and the BR is out. Whether either would be out or not, completely irrelevent. This a safety rule, whether you like the rule or not, you have to enforce it. If you aren't and somebody gets hurt, it puts you in an indefensible position.

[Jocko]

I completely and totally agree with all that if he slides it must be legal.

[Pete Peterson Sr]

Ok, Sherlock.... I'm still waiting for the entire body width reference. You sure are combative over a friendly baseball rules conversation. Hate to see how you act on the field.

I'm combative when you keep insisting on incorrect umpiring, and I point it out? Not to mention, you claim to mean one thing when saying another? That's called "dishonesty."

And don't start with how I must be on the field. My HS season isn't over, if you catch my drift.

As for your body-width reference, check your periodic handouts. It is in there, and is in at least one a year. There's even a little shaded diagram. This isn't rocket science--if any part of the body goes to either side of the bag, that is outside a direct line between bases, since there is no line from base to base outside of the edges.

What, pray tell, is a "periodic handout" ?

[mstaylor]

The Fed handout that has articles about new rules., last year's changes and POI.

https://www.pubservice.com/RIStore/ProductDetails.aspx?ID=79362&WG=317

[zm1283]

I completely and totally agree with all that if he slides it must be legal.

It must meet the requirements of the FPSR, which have been explained here. Your "judgment" is entirely too liberal.