Dead ball?

[crazyaboutcoues]

Federation

With one out and a runner on first base, B4 allows the fair fly ball to drop untouched to the ground.

a ball is dead batter is out

b ball is dead and runner on 1st is out

c Ball is live and no one is out yet

d The runner and batter-runner are awarded one base.

This is a tricky question at least to me, the book states if the ball is "intentionally" dropped the ball is dead and all runners return. The question states that it was "allowed" to drop. The book also states that the batter is not out if the infielder "permits" the ball to drop untouched to the ground, except when IFF is in effect. Page 52 8-4-1c1

So how do we differenciate intentional and permit on a dropped ball?

[sdix00]

Federation

With one out and a runner on first base, B4 allows the fair fly ball to drop untouched to the ground.

a ball is dead batter is out

b ball is dead and runner on 1st is out

c Ball is live and no one is out yet

d The runner and batter-runner are awarded one base.

This is a tricky question at least to me, the book states if the ball is "intentionally" dropped the ball is dead and all runners return. The question states that it was "allowed" to drop. The book also states that the batter is not out if the infielder "permits" the ball to drop untouched to the ground, except when IFF is in effect. Page 52 8-4-1c1

You have answered your own question.

• Was the ball "intentionally" dropped? Yes, except
• The book also states that the batter is not out if the infielder "permits" the ball to drop untouched to the ground, except when IFF is in effect. Correct
  
• The question states that it was "allowed" to drop. Correct
  

So how do we differenciate intentional and permit on a dropped ball?

This is where you may be confused. There is no differentiation between 'intentional' and 'permit'. There is a differentiation between 'dropping' and 'allowing to fall untouched'.

[noumpere]

This is a tricky question at least to me, the book states if the ball is "intentionally" dropped the ball is dead and all runners return.

Before you can intentionally drop something you must get your hands on it. If it just falls untouched then its not covered by the rule.

[JaxRolo]

This is a tricky question at least to me, the book states if the ball is "intentionally" dropped the ball is dead and all runners return.

Before you can intentionally drop something you must get your hands on it. If it just falls untouched then its not covered by the rule.

+1

That's my interpretation.

[yawetag]

With one out and a runner on first base, B4 allows the fair fly ball to drop untouched to the ground.

If B4 allowed the ball to touch him in fair territory, he'd be out.

[1dumbquestion]

With one out and a runner on first base, B4 allows the fair fly ball to drop untouched to the ground.

If B4 allowed the ball to touch him in fair territory, he'd be out.

I think he meant F4 and then C is the correct answer.

[mstaylor]

Untouched is fine, no problem. Intentionally dropped means he caught it and released it trying to get a cheap double play. It is a very unusual call that will probably only happen a couple of times in your carreer.

[yawetag]

If B4 allowed the ball to touch him in fair territory, he'd be out.

I think he meant F4 and then C is the correct answer.

It was my shot at sarcasm. :)

[crazyaboutcoues]

Yeah I meant F4

Thanks for the replies