3 Man Mechanics

[mepetty]

I was working a high a school playoff game and had this situation happen a couple of times. I'm U3 andI'm in the C. Bases Loaded, no outs, infield playing in. Didn't feel comfortable at all. Moved on both sides of F6 because of how he was playing. Is it same as in two man? Position: even with, to slightly behind and off to the side, wanted to make sure I wan't in the way for a player charging ball. One time closer to 3rd and once closer to 2nd, because of how F6 was playing. Any advice. : HS

[JaxRolo]

When I am in C and infield in I go more behind F1 . That is were I feel more comfortable i won't get in the way.

[TAB]

How "far in" was the infield playing? If the infield is in far enough I will try to get behind them (to prevent being in the way of a charging F6 or F4) and signal the PU I am behind the fielders. I also tend to creep more to the middle of the infield, more behind the pitcher. I do the same thing in 2 or 3 man, just try to stay out of the way and I can always move once the ball his hit.

[kcfan102]

Every Monday starting in March, we went to a local high school where to graduates of the Jim Evans academy taught some mechanics and situations. They are from the KC area and I have really liked the "professional" way of doing things.

I guess the "proper" position in C is drawing an imaginary line from home plate that touches the very outsite of the 18 ft. circle surrounding the pitchers plate. This diagram is from an article written by Richard Siegel shows it pretty well. Here is his article.

Hope that helps!

[D62 blue]

Every Monday starting in March, we went to a local high school where to graduates of the Jim Evans academy taught some mechanics and situations. They are from the KC area and I have really liked the "professional" way of doing things.

I guess the "proper" position in C is drawing an imaginary line from home plate that touches the very outsite of the 18 ft. circle surrounding the pitchers plate. This diagram is from an article written by Richard Siegel shows it pretty well. Here is his article.

Hope that helps!

in my area So Cal , we are begining to work 3-man , now that league play-offs are going on . and also soon T O C and all stars tournaments . here is a handy 3-man card that is available to keep in the pocket . from what i understand this is the pro mechanic's . it can be adapted to any level of ball and field size . hope this is helpful info . maybe some on this blog have seen this already ?

d62 blue

[UmpTTS43]

in my area So Cal , we are begining to work 3-man , now that league play-offs are going on . and also soon T O C and all stars tournaments . here is a handy 3-man card that is available to keep in the pocket . from what i understand this is the pro mechanic's . it can be adapted to any level of ball and field size . hope this is helpful info . maybe some on this blog have seen this already ?

d62 blue

That is not pro mechanics or CCA mechanics for that matter. Looks like it is a good tool for small diamond though.

[ukce1861]

That is not pro mechanics or CCA mechanics for that matter. Looks like it is a good tool for small diamond though.

It's not LL either... D62, if that's what you use in your area, that's fine, but you should probably be aware that, according to the LL Mechanics manual, this card is wrong.

With no one on or a runner on 3rd only, both umpires are on the line. With a runner on first only, U1 is in A and U3 is in B. In all other situations, U1 is in A and U3 is in D.

[D62 blue]

It's not LL either... D62, if that's what you use in your area, that's fine, but you should probably be aware that, according to the LL Mechanics manual, this card is wrong.

With no one on or a runner on 3rd only, both umpires are on the line. With a runner on first only, U1 is in A and U3 is in B. In all other situations, U1 is in A and U3 is in D.

i've watched about a dozen ncaa div 1 games every year, UC irvine is only 10 minutes from my house . which is in the Big west conf. , and this is the same mechanics . i studied the crews , and used this card for reference ? this is also what is taught at western region LL , which is the source of this information ? maybe it is different based on the region of the country ? this is possible , yes ?

d62 blue

[semper_fi_72]

i've watched about a dozen ncaa div 1 games every year, UC irvine is only 10 minutes from my house . which is in the Big west conf. , and this is the same mechanics . i studied the crews , and used this card for reference ? this is also what is taught at western region LL , which is the source of this information ? maybe it is different based on the region of the country ? this is possible , yes ?

d62 blue

D62 blue

I don't know what WR is teaching but it is not what is published in the "The Umpire in Little League Manual" either. It contains some errors. ie: R1,,,,U1 is in B not A.

Did your HS Unit not have a 3 man clinic before you started HS Playoffs.

Ours did.

[BrianC14]

I was working a high a school playoff game and had this situation happen a couple of times. I'm U3 andI'm in the C. Bases Loaded, no outs, infield playing in. Didn't feel comfortable at all. Moved on both sides of F6 because of how he was playing. Is it same as in two man? Position: even with, to slightly behind and off to the side, wanted to make sure I wan't in the way for a player charging ball. One time closer to 3rd and once closer to 2nd, because of how F6 was playing. Any advice. : HS

Whatever you do, do NOT attempt to play "up" in the infield (behind the pitcher, farther to 3B side) - that will only make matters worse, and I can assure you that on any ball hit to the infield, you're going to be in the way in this situation.

The simple answer for this is to shift BACK in an even deeper B or C (see diagrams provided above) so that you're one step behind either F4 or F6 (depending on which side you're on). Yes, that's right , you'll be on the dirt, and you'd better be ready to have a rocket in your ass if a play develops at 3B, because it's yours, as are plays at 2B.

By the way, you can also position yourself at Deep B if there's a RH hitter up (e.g., position yourself away from the power side).

Now, that said: CHECK WITH YOUR LOCAL ASSOCIATION to see how they want you to position.

[mstaylor]

I skimmed the pdf and it looks right for starting positions. What are you guys saying isn't right. The PU covering 1/3 is unclear. If nobody goes out then that isn't true, it is a reverse rotation.

[D62 blue]

I skimmed the pdf and it looks right for starting positions. What are you guys saying isn't right. The PU covering 1/3 is unclear. If nobody goes out then that isn't true, it is a reverse rotation.

i think some in the group , may be confusing 3-man w/ 2-man possibly ? for example in one of the threads it was mentioned that with R1 you should be in "B" , which is correct in a 2-man . however in 3-man if you have R1 then U1 is always in "A" , even if you have R1,R2 or any other combination . U1 is always in "A" if you have R1 .

d62 blue